Property talk:P1123

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  Type “type of quantum particle (Q22675015), isotope (Q25276): element must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “type of quantum particle (Q22675015), isotope (Q25276)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1123#type Q22675015, Q25276, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
  No bounds: values can't have any bounds (e.g. 1 not 1±0) (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1123#No Bounds, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
  Units: “novalue”: value unit must be one of listed. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1123#Units, SPARQL (new)
  Integer: values should be integers (ie. they shouldn't have a fractional part) (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1123#integer, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
  Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1123#scope, hourly updated report, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
 

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  One of -1, 1: value must be one of the specified items. Please expand list if needed.
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1123#One of, values statistics

IsotopeEdit

‎APSbot (talkcontribslogs) is currently adding the spin on all isotopes item (see for example this diff). As this property expects to be used only on subatomic particles, isotope items appear in the constraint violations report. Would it be possible possible to add the posibility to use this property also for isotope items in order to describe the spin and the parity of their ground state and/or their isomeric state if they exist? Pamputt (talk) 14:53, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Ah, I see I made a note many months ago on spin quantum number (P1122) asking about this, but then forgot it was an issue when I added a modified script to the bot to pull in the other pieces of info from NNDC. Technically, nuclides are indeed subatomic, so the problem with this constraint is the limitation to elementary particles here, which is clearly wrong. Although there is perhaps some ambiguity in the meaning of "isotope" - is it the nuclide, or the nuclide plus its normal atomic state electron cloud? What the bot is entering obviously is just the spin and parity values of the nuclide itself. I'm not sure if we ought to make that clearer somehow. In any case, for now I'm going to modify these constraints to allow "isotope", but it probably should be broader than that too. ArthurPSmith (talk) 00:19, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
@ArthurPSmith: thanks for the modification on the constrains. For the rest, I agree with your definition of the spin for isotopes and nuclides. Pamputt (talk) 18:22, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
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