Property talk:P2233
Latest comment: 4 years ago by Eihel in topic of orbit or of any ellipse?
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semi-major axis of an orbit
semi-major axis of a stable orbit (Astronomy)
semi-major axis of a stable orbit (Astronomy)
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Units: “kilometre (Q828224), astronomical unit (Q1811), parsec (Q12129)”: value unit must be one of listed. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2233#Units
Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2233#Scope, hourly updated report, SPARQLConflicts with “subclass of (P279)”: this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2233#Conflicts with P279, SPARQL
Type “orbit (Q4130), astronomical object (Q6999), spacecraft (Q40218), spaceflight (Q5916), circumstellar disk (Q3235978)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “orbit (Q4130), astronomical object (Q6999), spacecraft (Q40218), spaceflight (Q5916), circumstellar disk (Q3235978)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2233#Type Q4130, Q6999, Q40218, Q5916, Q3235978, SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P2233#Entity types
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of orbit or of any ellipse? edit
I don't see any hint about orbit in labels (only in descriptions) so why to restrict it to orbits? I propose to use this property for equatorial radius of Earth (Q2) as oppose to polar radius. --Infovarius (talk) 22:28, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
- Does the shape of Earth really fit with a perfect ellipse? -- Innocent bystander (talk) 11:02, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
- Of course it is not perfect ellipsoid, but ellipsoid is far better approximation than sphere. Besides, Earth's orbit is also not perfect ellipse. --Infovarius (talk) 15:06, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- Agree! But I wonder if this property could be used in an item linked to the value of shape (P1419) instead of directly in Q2?
- I mean something like:
- Of course it is not perfect ellipsoid, but ellipsoid is far better approximation than sphere. Besides, Earth's orbit is also not perfect ellipse. --Infovarius (talk) 15:06, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
In Q2: shape (P1419):QThe shape of Earth
In QThe shape of Earth: semi-major axis of an orbit (P2233):Whatever fit
- In that way we could better describe dog-bone-shaped Asteroids, duck-shaped Comets etc... -- Innocent bystander (talk) 15:57, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
apoapsis (P2243) is better for orbit. --Infovarius (talk) 22:48, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- @MER-C, Paperoastro: would you object replacing all P2233 statements with P2243 statements? --Infovarius (talk) 23:32, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Infovarius, MER-C:. I'm not agree: 1) semimajor axis and apoapsis are two different elements of an ellipse (see Ellipse); 2) semimajor axis is one of the main elements to define the shape and size of an orbit (see Orbital elements), even if apoapsis can be used in different parametrizations. --Paperoastro (talk) 10:14, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
- Ah, yes, sorry. They are different. --Infovarius (talk) 09:31, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Infovarius, MER-C:. I'm not agree: 1) semimajor axis and apoapsis are two different elements of an ellipse (see Ellipse); 2) semimajor axis is one of the main elements to define the shape and size of an orbit (see Orbital elements), even if apoapsis can be used in different parametrizations. --Paperoastro (talk) 10:14, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
Ok, if everybody mean only orbital semi-axis I change labels according to this. --Infovarius (talk) 21:53, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
- Hi @Infovarius: For space, there are distance units that are only used on this occasion. So a radius of a planet (Earth) does not fit into these units. The idea is the same for those who want to use this P for eggs. In addition, there is an idea of the course of an object: the course of the Earth, OK, but not the radius of the Earth.
- For apoapside, the center of an ellipse is not necessarily a point of reference: Halley's comet has a P2233 and an apoapside, in relation to the Sun which is its perihelion. —Eihel (talk) 15:59, 14 October 2019 (UTC)