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UK National Archives ID
identifier for a person, family or organisation, in the UK's National Archives database

Associated item	UK National Archives (Q392703)
Applicable "stated in" value	discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk (Q110158722)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	According to this template: human (Q5), group of humans (Q16334295) According to statements in the property: human (Q5), group of humans (Q16334295), legal person (Q3778211) or religious community (Q2742167) When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values	[A-Z]\d+
Example	Charles Babbage (Q46633) → F44040 Royal Society of Medicine (Q3446034) → F159861
Source	https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/
Formatter URL	https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/$1
Related to country	United Kingdom (Q145) (See 327 others)
See also	CofE archives catalogue ID (P9483)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties Items with no other external identifier Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Map of people by place values: place of birth educated at work location residence place of death place of burial January 1st dates People with date of birth on January 1 People with date of death on January 1 People with both dates on January 1 Mix'n'match (Report) Database reports/Constraint violations/P3029 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 75,561 Main statement 54,329 71.9% of uses Qualifier 2 <0.1% of uses Reference 21,230 28.1% of uses
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Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3029#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)

Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3029#Single value, SPARQL

Type “human (Q5), group of humans (Q16334295), legal person (Q3778211), religious community (Q2742167)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “human (Q5), group of humans (Q16334295), legal person (Q3778211), religious community (Q2742167)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Fort George (Q1426707), Ede & Ravenscroft (Q5336719), Pipewell Abbey (Q1362788), Business Design Centre (Q7373586)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3029#Type Q5, Q16334295, Q3778211, Q2742167, SPARQL

Format “(?!O)[A-Z]\d+”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3029#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3029#Scope, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3029#Entity types

This property is being used by: en:Template:UK National Archives ID fa:الگو:UK National Archives ID ja:Template:UK National Archives ID zh:Template:UK National Archives ID bn:টেমপ্লেট:UK National Archives ID war:Batakan:UK National Archives ID simple:Template:UK National Archives ID ar:قالب:UK National Archives ID, ar:قالب:معرف لدى الأرشيف الوطني البريطاني ko:틀:영국 국립 공문서관 ID ml:ഫലകം:UK National Archives ID id:Templat:UK National Archives ID azb:شابلون:UK National Archives ID sr:Шаблон:UK National Archives ID ro:Format:UK National Archives ID hi:साँचा:UK National Archives ID da:Skabelon:UK National Archives ID vi:Bản mẫu:UK National Archives ID bcl:Plantilya:UK National Archives ID ckb:داڕێژە:UK National Archives ID ta:வார்ப்புரு:UK National Archives ID arz:قالب:UK National Archives ID kn:ಟೆಂಪ್ಲೇಟು:UK National Archives ID tr:Şablon:UK National Archives ID pa:ਫਰਮਾ:UK National Archives ID mk:Предлошка:UK National Archives ID gv:Clowan:UK National Archives ID Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Note: Not to be confused with the old-style IDs, used in en:Template:NRA, which now redirect to pages using these new IDs.

URL format

Is there a way to link https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7719833 to Percy Towns Armstrong (Q63155558)? It doesn't seem to have the right URL format, i.e., /r/ instead of /c/. Ghouston (talk) 10:39, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing, Mr impossible: I have the same problem with http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1356 and Committee for Compounding with Delinquents (Q5152924). Can you help? - PKM (talk) 01:23, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

At present, no. We could change the formatter URL from https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/c/$1 to https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/$1, but we would need a bot to update all the current "c" values. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:18, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I'm afraid we use different prefixes for different kinds of database entry. /c is for a record creator (person, organisation etc.), /r for a record and /a for an archive (but we have separate archon codes for these so it's not so much of an issue). Tbh we are likely to have to rewrite all of these in the next two years because we're moving to a completely new URL schema - a much better one but it's still churn. --Mr impossible (talk) 14:39, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

I've had the same problem with https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1083 for an organisation, Royal Ordnance Factory. I think we should address both the scope and url format by accepting the ID can be for anything in the archive and rewriting the entries to quote the prefix letter. @Mr impossible what is the status of the new URL schema you mentioned? Vicarage (talk) 20:59, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

Scope constraint too limited

The ship Batavia (Q30603082) has a valid National Archives page, but is flagged because 'Batavia currently isn't: human, group of humans, legal person. This is too restrictive given the National Archives cover a very wide of subjects. Vicarage (talk) 09:16, 12 September 2022 (UTC)