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narrative location
the narrative of the work is set in this location

Description	the narrative of this work is set at this location
Represents	narrative location (Q105115142)
Data type	Item
Domain	According to this template: work (literature, film, music, everything with a narrative) According to statements in the property: work (Q386724), scene (Q1185607), genre (Q483394), level (Q1046315) or group of works (Q17489659) When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values	can have multiple values (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Example	Paul et Virginie (Q2293012) → Mauritius Island (Q2656389) Nineteen Eighty-Four (Q208460) → London (Q84) 300 (Q131390) → Thermopylae (Q194450) Regency novel (Q7308027) → England (Q21) Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home (Q471842) → Vulcan (Q1088708) San Francisco (Q62) The Simpsons (Q886) → Springfield (Q151076) Capital City (Q3176924) Shelbyville (Q3285391)
Tracking: usage	Category:Pages using Wikidata property P840 (Q20990010)
See also	filming location (P915), set in period (P2408), set in environment (P8411), location of creation (P1071), takes place in fictional universe (P1434)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties By value of property Most statements Fewest statements Most sitelinks Most linked wikis Total of sitelinks on items Most identifiers Fewest identifiers Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Database reports/Constraint violations/P840 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 105,791 Main statement 104,695 99% of uses Qualifier 1,064 1% of uses Reference 32 <0.1% of uses
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Type “work (Q386724), scene (Q1185607), genre (Q483394), level (Q1046315), group of works (Q17489659)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31), subclass of (P279)” with classes “work (Q386724), scene (Q1185607), genre (Q483394), level (Q1046315), group of works (Q17489659)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: London in film (Q6671108)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P840#Type Q386724, Q1185607, Q483394, Q1046315, Q17489659, SPARQL

Value type “physical location (Q17334923), geographical feature (Q618123), geographic region (Q82794), fictional location (Q3895768), event (Q1656682), shell of an astronomical object (Q47495022), extremity (Q20203388), fictional vessel (Q18670171), outer space (Q4169), fictional spacecraft (Q14637321), facility (Q13226383), territory (Q4835091), fictional group of locations (Q111547268), fictional dimension (Q100706037), fictional parallel universe (Q47306921), fictional multiverse (Q39916781), campaign setting (Q4418079), mythical location (Q3238337), astronomical object (Q6999), fictional locality (Q108059277)”: This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31), subclass of (P279)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31), subclass of (P279) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value physical location (Q17334923), geographical feature (Q618123), geographic region (Q82794), fictional location (Q3895768), event (Q1656682), shell of an astronomical object (Q47495022), extremity (Q20203388), fictional vessel (Q18670171), outer space (Q4169), fictional spacecraft (Q14637321), facility (Q13226383), territory (Q4835091), fictional group of locations (Q111547268), fictional dimension (Q100706037), fictional parallel universe (Q47306921), fictional multiverse (Q39916781), campaign setting (Q4418079), mythical location (Q3238337), astronomical object (Q6999), fictional locality (Q108059277) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P840#Value type Q17334923, Q618123, Q82794, Q3895768, Q1656682, Q47495022, Q20203388, Q18670171, Q4169, Q14637321, Q13226383, Q4835091, Q111547268, Q100706037, Q47306921, Q39916781, Q4418079, Q3238337, Q6999, Q108059277, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P840#Entity types

Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P840#Scope, SPARQL

Conflicts with “instance of (P31): version, edition or translation (Q3331189)”: this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P840#Conflicts with P31, search, SPARQL

Conflicts with “instance of (P31): fictional universe (Q559618)”: this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P840#Conflicts with P31, search, SPARQL

Conflicts with “instance of (P31): human (Q5)”: this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P840#Conflicts with P31, search, SPARQL

This property is being used by: ru:Шаблон:Опера, ru:Шаблон:КМТ, ru:Шаблон:Оперетта, ru:Шаблон:Музыкальная драма ca:Plantilla:Infotaula pel·lícula, ca:Plantilla:Infotaula arts escèniques, ca:Plantilla:Infotaula de llibre, ca:Plantilla:Infotaula sèrie de televisió, ca:Plantilla:Programa de televisió, ca:Plantilla:Infotaula de programa audiovisual, ca:Plantilla:Infotaula de publicacions periòdiques, ca:Plantilla:Infotaula publicació periòdica hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Գիրք, hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Համակարգչային խաղ, hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Հեռուստաշոու, hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Մուլտֆիլմ, hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Օպերա, hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Ֆիլմ, hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Մուլտսերիալ, hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Հեռուստասերիալ, hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Հեռուստասերիալի եթերաշրջան, hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Հեռուստասերիալի սերիա, hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Երաժշտական ստեղծագործություն, hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Գրական ստեղծագործություն ro:Format:Infocaseta Film, ro:Format:Infocaseta Televiziune eu:Txantiloi:Film infotaula automatikoa, eu:Txantiloi:Telesail infotaula automatikoa, eu:Txantiloi:Film infotaula automatikoa/en, eu:Txantiloi:Lan infotaula automatikoa, eu:Txantiloi:Lan infotaula da:Skabelon:Infoboks tv es:Plantilla:Ficha de obra de teatro el:Πρότυπο:Πληροφορίες βιβλίου gl:Modelo:Ficha de obra de teatro, gl:Modelo:Obra de teatro hu:Sablon:Színdarab infobox en:Template:Infobox book/wikidata id:Templat:Infobox book/wikidata, id:Templat:Infobox film/Wikidata ga:Teimpléad:WD Bosca Sonraí Leabhar, ga:Teimpléad:WD Bosca Sonraí Scannáin, ga:Teimpléad:WD Bosca Sonraí Nuachtán kab:Talɣa:Infobox television, kab:Talɣa:Infobox intellectual work ha:Template:Infobox intellectual work, ha:Samfuri:Infobox intellectual work diq:Şablon:Kıtab, diq:Şablon:Medya, diq:Şablon:Filmi roa-rup:Format:Infocaseta Televiziune, roa-rup:Format:Infocaseta Serial incubator:Template:Wp/shi/Infobox intellectual work vec:Modeło:Infobox de Libro ig:Àtụ:Infobox intellectual work shi:Talɣa:Infobox intellectual work uk:Шаблон:Мюзикл eo:Ŝablono:Informkesto libro, eo:Ŝablono:Informkesto filmo rup:Format:Infocaseta Serial, rup:Format:Infocaseta Televiziune ar:قالب:صندوق معلومات كتاب/ويكي بيانات cs:Šablona:Infobox - muzikál Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Question

Can this also be used to identify the 'location' of a painting?

the location of the painting? no. as soon as a painting has a narrative, yes!--Shisma (talk) 12:15, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

Wouldn't that be motive, depicts (P180)? --Palnatoke (talk) 08:47, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Well.. we currently have 42 paintings with a narrative location. Many of them also has the location in the motives. On the other hand, many of the depicts (P180)s are not "the motive of this painting", but "an insiginficant detail in this painting", so having a property to store "location of the motive" makes sense. --Palnatoke (talk) 09:18, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

To me it sounds odd to have a narrative location set for a painting. Narative should be reserved for works that have some form of sequence. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 17:05, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Q617332

Is Q617332 the same? —Sobloku (talk) 01:01, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

I think so. I do not think this property is limited to films, but should be used on other works of fiction too. I have changed the property accordingly. --Haansn08 (talk) 18:10, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Real vessels as narrative locations

As currently defined this property may be used with fictional vehicles but not actual ones. Yes, it would be possible to construct an item for a fictional analog of an actual vessel and then locate the narrative there. However, that seems cumbersome, in part as it's possible to locate a narrative in a geographic location without the need to create fictional analogs of the place. There are definitely narrative works that take place on non-fictional ships, such as operas that take place entirely or in part on the Achille Lauro cruise liner or the Amistad slave ship. Films, novels, etc., too, can have vessel settings. At the same time, would we want to consider also adding real-world analogs of other constraints where fictional entities are permitted but not real ones, particular, fictional spacecraft and fictional organization?

values for The Mentalist (Q204228)

See Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Narration#narrative_location_(P840)_for_The_Mentalist_(Q204228) --- Jura 14:03, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Tools using P840

I've developed new tools based on P840.

• Mapping of a writer's work
• Mapping of a director's work

PAC2 (talk) 22:34, 8 February 2024 (UTC)