Talk:Q21686005
Latest comment: 6 years ago by Liuxinyu970226 in topic novalue
Autodescription — N/A (Q21686005)
description: abbreviation for “not applicable”
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What property (or qualifier) should we use if a silent film has intertitles in some language? --Infovarius (talk) 21:25, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
novalue
editWhy having this entity if "novalue" would be just suitable for this? (IMHO) Barcex (talk) 18:19, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
- It's hard to add statements to that.
--- Jura 07:46, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
- Hard? You can just click the small button, left of input box that looks like 3 small boxes, and select "no value" option. How is this hard? Can you please tell me @Jura1:? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 08:24, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- May be Jura means QuickStatements, PetScan and other tools. Did you try to add "novalue" using them, Liuxinyu970226? --Infovarius (talk) 13:49, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
- Adding "novalue" with QuickStatements and PetScan is not possible, but I don't think this justifies permanent hacks to the data model. As a temporary hack I could accept it, then we can set up a bot which regularly converts Q21686005 to novalue. --Pasleim (talk) 18:30, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
- This is for silent films only. One could obviously debate their exact language characteristics, but I don't think "no value" matches it. We have specific items for sign languages as well. Besides, there isn't really any value added by converting this. Isn't there? --
--- Jura 07:23, 1 October 2017 (UTC)- @Jura1: "We have specific items for sign languages as well." because they have Wikipedia articles, e.g. Auslan (Q29525) and how do you believe this can have? Anyway, why do you created N/A (Q36610580)? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:04, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
- This is for silent films only. One could obviously debate their exact language characteristics, but I don't think "no value" matches it. We have specific items for sign languages as well. Besides, there isn't really any value added by converting this. Isn't there? --
- Adding "novalue" with QuickStatements and PetScan is not possible, but I don't think this justifies permanent hacks to the data model. As a temporary hack I could accept it, then we can set up a bot which regularly converts Q21686005 to novalue. --Pasleim (talk) 18:30, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
- May be Jura means QuickStatements, PetScan and other tools. Did you try to add "novalue" using them, Liuxinyu970226? --Infovarius (talk) 13:49, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
Suggest to merge to language without a specific language code (Q22283016)
editplease? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:37, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
- Why? "mis" is for known languages that don't have WMF codes yet (generally with an open thread in phabricator that isn't being processed correctly).
--- Jura 04:22, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
- So do you have a specific BCP47 language tag for this specific concept? In any case, the original language of film or TV show (P364) will be deleted in the near future, so if you think keeping is better than merging, then this is a specific languoid, and you need at least one code to identify it. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:48, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
- What do you suggest? We still seems to be stuck with the absence of a valid plan. Merging it with Q5 wouldn't do it either.
--- Jura 05:39, 10 August 2017 (UTC)- @Jura1: And why you created N/A (Q36610580), how is it too can't be replaced by no value, as Pasleim suggested below? Remember that P364 is TO BE DELETED IN THE NEAR FUTURE. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 10:08, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
- What do you suggest? We still seems to be stuck with the absence of a valid plan. Merging it with Q5 wouldn't do it either.
- So do you have a specific BCP47 language tag for this specific concept? In any case, the original language of film or TV show (P364) will be deleted in the near future, so if you think keeping is better than merging, then this is a specific languoid, and you need at least one code to identify it. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 03:48, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
- Shouldn't it be turned into the special value novalue? --Pasleim (talk) 17:56, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
- +1, as the Jura1's "we" is still unclear by scope. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:05, 28 August 2017 (UTC)