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User:Mateusz Konieczny/failing testcases

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Please, edit sections that are fixed or outdated! Please do not archive fixed items - I often need to take extra actions so that future reports will not include them again.

In general, any help with fixing problem reported here is helpful and welcome!

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Concordia Publishing House (Q5158981) is a word or phrase, according to Wikidata ontology

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en: subject heading (lexical unit of a thesaurus (word or phrase) used for indexing and that captures the essence of the topic of a document) [1]

en: word or phrase (sequence of one or more words) [2] this was unexpected here as it indicates a word or phrase !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Andrew Carnegie Free Library (Q4756546) is art (field of work, not the resulting work), according to Wikidata ontology

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en: music hall (type of British theatrical entertainment popular between 1850 and 1960) [3]

en: variety (multidisciplinary theatrical genre, consisting of a series of acts with or without an overarching structure) [4]
en: performing arts (art form that is performed for an audience) [5]
en: arts (human expression and creativity, usually influenced by culture) [6]
en: humanities (study of the products of human culture such as art, historical artifacts etc) [7]
en: social sciences and humanities (an area of scholarly activity) [8]
en: science (systematic system that builds and organizes knowledge, and the set of knowledge produced by this system) [9] this was unexpected here as it indicates a science !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
en: art (field of work focused on creating expressive work intended to be appreciated for its beauty or emotional power (use Q838948 for the resulting work)) [10] this was unexpected here as it indicates art (field of work, not the resulting work) !!!!!!!!!

Fixed: [11], [12]. Swpb (talk) 20:22, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Radian Aerospace (Q110639966) is a physical process, according to Wikidata ontology

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en: sub-orbital spaceplane (spaceplane that does not reach orbit) [13]

en: sub-orbital spaceflight (spaceflight where spacecraft leaves the astronomical body but doesn't reach orbit) [14]
en: spaceflight (flight into or through outer space) [15]
en: flight (process by which an object moves, through an atmosphere or beyond it) [16]
en: motion (change in position of an object over time; a body is said to be in motion if it changes its position or orientation with respect to its immediate surroundings) [17]
en: physical process (process that can be described with physics) [18] this was unexpected here as it indicates a physical process !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
en: occurrence (occurrence of a fact or object in space-time; instantiation of a property in an object) [19] this was unexpected here as it indicates an event !!!!!!!!!!!

Fixed: [20], [21]. Swpb (talk) 18:41, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

CalSTRS (Q14681677) is an event, according to Wikidata ontology

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en: pension provider [22]

en: pensions in Germany (pensions in the country of Germany) [23]
en: retirement provision (economic concept) [24]
en: provisioning (supplying materials, especially food) [25]
en: supply (economic activity aimed at covering the consumption needs of an economic unit) [26]
en: economic activity (human activity involving the transfer of goods or services) [27]
en: transfer (process in which an item associated with one entity becomes similarly associated with another) [28]
en: interaction (kind of action that occurs as two or more objects have an effect upon one another) [29]
en: effect (exercising influence over an entity) [30]
en: action (something an agent can do or perform) [31] this was unexpected here as it indicates an event !!!!

Fixed: [32], [33]. Swpb (talk) 17:28, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Bendigo Bank (Q4887077)

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en: retail banking (provision of services by a bank to individual consumers) [34]

en: retail (sale of goods and services from individuals or businesses to the end-user) [35]
en: trade (economic branch involving the exchange of goods and services) [36]
en: economic activity (human activity involving the transfer of goods or services) [37]
en: transfer (process in which an item associated with one entity becomes similarly associated with another) [38]
en: interaction (kind of action that occurs as two or more objects have an effect upon one another) [39]
en: effect (exercising influence over an entity) [40]
en: action (something an agent can do or perform) [41] this was unexpected here as it indicates an event !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
en: intentional human activity (human activity driven by purposeful motives) [42] this was unexpected here as it indicates an intentional human activity !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
en: banking industry (industry for financial institutions such as banks and credit unions) [43]
en: business administration (administration of a profit-oriented enterprise) [44]
en: administration (supervising, organizing and coordinating the execution of tasks and people) [45]
en: human behavior (array of physical actions and observable emotions associated with humans) [46] this was unexpected here as it indicates a human behavior !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fixed [47] Swpb (talk) 18:39, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Musiculum (Q19296792) is a science, according to Wikidata ontology

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en: training workshop (type of interactive training) [48]

en: educational concept (type of concept) [49]
en: pedagogy (theory and practice of education) [50]
en: education (transmission of knowledge and skills) [51] this was unexpected here as it indicates an education (transmission of knowledge and skills) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
en: Geisteswissenschaften (set of human sciences that are traditional in German universities) [52]
en: human science (study of the philosophical, biological, social, and cultural aspects of human life) [53]
en: social sciences and humanities (an area of scholarly activity) [54]
en: science (systematic system that builds and organizes knowledge, and the set of knowledge produced by this system) [55] this was unexpected here as it indicates a science !!!!!!!

Fixed [56] Swpb (talk) 20:38, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Sky Park (Q97579154) is a construction (as economic activity), according to Wikidata ontology

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en: urban renewal (program of land redevelopment in cities, often where there is urban decay) [57]

en: redevelopment (new construction on a site that has preexisting uses) [58]
en: construction (economic activity that consists of the building or assembling of a building or infrastructure) [59] this was unexpected here as it indicates a construction (as economic activity) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
en: urban planning (technical and political process concerned with the use of land and design of the urban environment) [60]
en: spatial planning (technique for physical organisation of space) [61]
en: planning (process of determining the activities required to achieve a desired goal) [62]
en: skill (learned ability and competence to carry out an action) [63]
en: knowledge (mental possession of information or skills, contributing to understanding) [64]
en: memory (information stored in the mind, including facts, knowledge, skills, and episodic memories) [65]
en: content (matter or entity that is contained) [66]
en: abstract entity (entity that exists outside physical reality, including abstract objects and properties) [67] this was unexpected here as it indicates an object that exists outside physical reality !!!!!!!

Fixed: [68], [69], [70]. Swpb (talk) 20:13, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Cop slide (Q123944405) is a physical process, according to Wikidata ontology

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en: Internet meme (concept that spreads from person to person via the Internet) [71]

en: viral phenomenon (objects or patterns that are able to replicate themselves or convert other objects into copies of themselves when these objects are exposed to them) [72]
en: media trend (mass media topic of short-term interest) [73]
en: fad (thing or behavior that achieves intense short-lived popularity and then fades away) [74]
en: collective behavior (social processes and events which do not reflect existing social structure, but which emerge in a "spontaneous" way) [75]
en: group behaviour (situation where entities interact in large or small groups) [76]
en: social behavior (behavior among two or more organisms, typically from the same species) [77]
en: biological process involved in intraspecies interaction between organisms (process in which an organism has an effect on an organism of the same species) [78]
en: biological process (process specifically pertinent to the functioning of integrated living units) [79]
en: physical process (process that can be described with physics) [80] this was unexpected here as it indicates a physical process !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fixed: [81]. A picture or video is not a viral phenomenon itself, but the content of such a phenomenon. But any social behavior such as a viral phenomenon is ultimately a physical process. Swpb (talk) 20:31, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

peat extraction in West Mecklenburg (Q2443953) is a science, according to Wikidata ontology

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Unexpected type Q2443953 undocumented format

en: mining (extraction of valuable minerals or other geological materials from the earth) [82] this was unexpected here as it indicates a mining (activity - likely mine/quarry etc should be set instead) !!!!!!

Fixed: [83], [84]. Swpb (talk) 20:36, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Khan Academy (Q94887) is a science, according to Wikidata ontology

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en: Khan Academy (non-profit educational organization) [85]

en: website (set of related web pages served from a single web domain) [86] this was unexpected here as it indicates a website !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

en: website (set of related web pages served from a single web domain) [87] this was unexpected here as it indicates a website !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! en: website (set of related web pages served from a single web domain) [88] this was unexpected here as it indicates a website !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! en: education platform (website for learning) [89]

en: website (set of related web pages served from a single web domain) [90] this was unexpected here as it indicates a website !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
en: educational software (software used in education) [91]
en: educational technology (use of technology in education to improve learning and teaching; not restricted to high technology) [92]
en: technology (making, modification, usage, and knowledge of tools, machines, techniques, crafts, systems, and methods of organization) [93]
en: applied science (discipline that applies existing scientific knowledge to develop more practical applications) [94]
en: science (systematic system that builds and organizes knowledge, and the set of knowledge produced by this system) [95] this was unexpected here as it indicates a science !!!!!!!!

Fixed: [96], [97]. The first fix is obvious; an organization is not the same as the service or product it provides. The second is tougher: a website is not a science, but where is the erroneous link? IMO, the problem is the ambiguity of "technology" in common parlance. Per the English label on technology (Q11016), it is the "making, modification, usage, and knowledge of tools..." etc. However, a lot of things we call "technologies", like wheels and websites, are tools themselves, not practices around tools. There are about 2400 instances, directly or indirectly, of technology, many of which are tools. I think it's reasonable to call these tools "technologies" (and I've added to the description on technology (Q11016) to include them), but it's not accurate to call them "applied sciences". So I've made technology (Q11016) a manifestation and effect of applied science (Q28797) instead of a subclass of it. Swpb (talk) 17:04, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Knights of Columbus (Q1046799) is an object that exists outside physical reality, according to Wikidata ontology

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en: order of chivalry (order, confraternity or society of knights) [98]

en: sodality (non-kin group organized for a specific purpose and frequently spanning villages or towns) [99]
en: social organization (pattern of relationships between and among individuals and social groups) [100]
en: pattern (discernible spatial or temporal regularity in the world or in a man-made design) [101]
en: regularity (abstract concept describing something that appears more than once with a certain space or time between the occurances) [102]
en: abstract entity (entity that exists outside physical reality, including abstract objects and properties) [103] this was unexpected here as it indicates an object that exists outside physical reality !!!!!!!!!!!

Fixed: [104], [105]. An organization like Knights of Columbus (Q1046799) is non-physical (just as #Items that may be correct as they are), but it is not a pattern (Q2083958). Swpb (talk) 18:26, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Lehmhaus Rauch (Q45742076) is a construction (as economic activity), according to Wikidata ontology

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en: earthen architecture (type of building construction) [106]

en: construction (economic activity that consists of the building or assembling of a building or infrastructure) [107] this was unexpected here as it indicates a construction (as economic activity) !!!!!!!!

Fixed: [108], [109]. Swpb (talk) 18:43, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Tracking query: items likely to be works of art, not fields of art

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https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%20%0AWHERE%20%0A%7B%0A%20%20VALUES%20%3Fclassofart%20%7Bwd%3AQ36649%20wd%3AQ184485%20wd%3AQ8242%20wd%3AQ2864737%20wd%3AQ10988986%20wd%3AQ213156%20wd%3AQ682010%20wd%3AQ473743%20wd%3AQ11633%20wd%3AQ2394336%20wd%3AQ11629%20wd%3AQ11634%20wd%3AQ2921001%20%7D%0A%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP31%20%3Fclassofart.%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22%5BAUTO_LANGUAGE%5D%2Cen%22.%20%7D%20%23%20Helps%20get%20the%20label%20in%20your%20language%2C%20if%20not%2C%20then%20en%20language%0A%7D

74511 results in 9848 ms - is it an useful report or listing bunch of false positives? Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 19:20, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
photograph (Q125191) shouldn't be among the classes queried; without it there are only 389 results (at the time of this comment). Swpb (talk) 19:15, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Same query with results grouped by parent class: [110]

Query for all instances of subclasses of art (Q735): [111] (currently 40834 items)

Same query as above, grouped by parent class: [112] (currently 654 classes with one or more instances)

Swpb (talk) 16:14, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

apparently missing wikidata entries

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https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/name:etymology:wikidata:missing#values lists cases where feature is named after person/object/thing with no Wikidata entry.

Presumably this Wikidata entries should be created

Would it be useful to report somewhere?

Try Wikidata:Bot requests. Swpb (talk) 18:00, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
Is it normal to create empty entries? I expected that filling something would be needed what seems to be a manual job here Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 18:03, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Items that may be correct as they are

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Kappa Kappa Kappa (Q6367049) is an object that exists outside physical reality, according to Wikidata ontology

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en: fraternity (collegiate social organization for men) [113]

en: fraternities and sororities (social organizations at colleges and universities) [114]
en: social organization (pattern of relationships between and among individuals and social groups) [115]
en: pattern (discernible spatial or temporal regularity in the world or in a man-made design) [116]
en: regularity (abstract concept describing something that appears more than once with a certain space or time between the occurances) [117]
en: abstract entity (entity that exists outside physical reality, including abstract objects and properties) [118] this was unexpected here as it indicates an object that exists outside physical reality !!!!

This is correct; it is an organization without physical substance. Swpb (talk) 16:26, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Santa Casa da Misericórdia de Soure (Q64555514) is an object that exists outside physical reality, according to Wikidata ontology

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en: confraternity (generally a Roman Catholic or Orthodox voluntary association of lay people) [119]

en: Sodality (also a lay organization in the Roman Catholic Church) [120]
en: sodality (non-kin group organized for a specific purpose and frequently spanning villages or towns) [121]
en: social organization (pattern of relationships between and among individuals and social groups) [122]
en: pattern (discernible spatial or temporal regularity in the world or in a man-made design) [123]
en: regularity (abstract concept describing something that appears more than once with a certain space or time between the occurances) [124]
en: abstract entity (entity that exists outside physical reality, including abstract objects and properties) [125] this was unexpected here as it indicates an object that exists outside physical reality !!!!!!
  • Organizations are platonic objects and not physical objects, so I don't see the problem here. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 16:13, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
    • "nonphysical object" would be fine. But "entity that exists outside physical reality" is not true. "number 1", "NGO" is "abstract entity - entity that exists outside physical reality". While specific organisation is nonphysical but existing within reality Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 09:19, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
      • I think that's a distinction without a difference. Organizations are abstract entities; you can quibble with the description of abstract entity (Q7048977) if you want but I think it's accurate as is. Swpb (talk) 16:05, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Subject matter expertise needed

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Jesus (Q302) is a fictional entity, according to Wikidata ontology

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en: Salvator Mundi (title of Jesus and subject in Christian iconography) [126]

en: Salvator [127]
en: Messiah (saviour or liberator of a group of people, most commonly in the Abrahamic religions) [128]
en: fictional religious occupation (religious occupation which only exists in a work of fiction) [129]
en: fictional entity (entity that only exists in a work of fiction) [130] this was unexpected here as it indicates a fictional entity !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

en: historical character (character in works of fiction inspired by an actual person in history, often heavily romanticized) [131]

en: fictional character (fictional human or non-human character in a narrative work of art) [132]
en: fictional entity (entity that only exists in a work of fiction) [133] this was unexpected here as it indicates a fictional entity !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

en: film character (fictional character appearing in a film) [134]

en: fictional character (fictional human or non-human character in a narrative work of art) [135]
en: fictional entity (entity that only exists in a work of fiction) [136] this was unexpected here as it indicates a fictional entity !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

This in general is a pretty problematic mess in many aspects.

Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 07:19, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

The solution would be the same as that discussed for other biblical figures with evidence of historicity: one item for the historical person, and one for their biblical representation. It would be best for someone with topic expertise to sort out which statements and links belong to which of those two items. Swpb (talk) 19:04, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Andorra (Q228) classified as goods and services

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principality (Q208500)

manorialism (Q1550557)
landed property (Q845132)
property (Q1400881)
goods (Q28877)
goods and services (Q2897903)

manorialism (Q1550557) currently conflates an economic system and properties held under that system. To the extent that principalities are or were manorial properties, they are goods. The question of whether all instances of principality (Q208500), and Andorra in particular, are also instances of manorialism (Q1550557) needs a subject-matter expert. Swpb (talk) 20:03, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Well, nowadays Andorra cannot be simply bought. So at least some qualifiers would be needed Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 22:42, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
Yes, probably end time (P582) at least. Swpb (talk) 13:42, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Posted to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat#Andorra_(Q228)_classified_as_goods_and_services Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 12:58, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

See https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2023/11#Andorra_(Q228)_classified_as_goods_and_services - remained unfixed Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 05:54, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Unsolvable conflations?

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Conflated classes that would be impractical and/or counterproductive to deconflate.

Imprints vs. publishers

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Verlag Ferdinand Schöningh (Q1298441) is an object that exists outside physical reality, according to Wikidata ontology

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en: imprint (trade name under which works are published, often corresponding to a division of a publishing company) [137]

en: trade name (name which a business trades under for commercial purposes) [138]
en: wordmark (stylized text-only representation of a brand used for identification and branding) [139]
en: name (word or phrase used for identification) [140]
en: word or phrase (sequence of one or more words) [141]
en: linguistic form (any meaningful unit of speech such as word, phrase, sentence, morpheme, affix (prefix, suffix, etc.) and the like) [142]
en: unit of speech (whatever the English phrase "unit of speech" means, used e.g. in the definitions in Merriam-Webster and dictionary.com) [143]
en: linguistic unit (any of a range of units of language, whether a word, phrase, clause, sentence, paragraph, whole conversation or a story, morpheme, grapheme, phoneme and syllable) [144]
en: unit (entity regarded or used as an elementary structural or functional constituent to measure, analyse or describe another entity) [145]
en: abstract entity (entity that exists outside physical reality, including abstract objects and properties) [146] this was unexpected here as it indicates an object that exists outside physical reality !!!!!!!

This represents a whole class of tricky cases – it hinges on whether the entity continued as a defined organization within a parent company, or if it became simply a name that the parent company publishes certain works under, without any corresponding internal organization. In the former case, it wouldn't strictly be an imprint, and in the latter, we'd want to put an end time (P582) on instance of = publisher (Q2085381). However, in the grand scheme, I suspect it's best to leave this type of conflation alone: imprint (Q2608849) is an accepted value class for publisher (P123), which is what these entities are overwhelmingly used for, and I suspect the degree of organizational independence of entities identified as imprints is often both A) not easily determined and B) not important enough to justify the work to separate them, and the overhead of maintaining two Q-items for each such entity. The same issue applies to brand (Q431289) and company (Q783794) generally; they are often not worth separating. So I think this belongs in the "Unsolvable" section below. Swpb (talk) 19:51, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Offices vs. professions

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https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q449319 via https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3368517 classifies it as a profession

But it is not a specific profession, and article at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Prosecutor_General_(Germany) describes rather government office

Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 05:44, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q5166910 and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q7583851 and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q55499784 have similar problem. Not sure what would be a proper fix... Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 05:46, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
Public Prosecutor General (Q449319) is a profession, according to Wikidata ontology
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en: public prosecutor general (public office) [147]

en: prosecutor (legal representative of the state in criminal trials) [148]
en: government attorneys (type of professional employees in government) [149]
en: lawyer (legal professional who helps clients and represents them in a court of law) [150]
en: legal profession (profession of those who study, develop and apply law – as a lawyer, judge, etc.) [151]
en: profession (occupation requiring specialized training) [152] this was unexpected here as it indicates a profession !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  Comment That's a tricky one because the label Generalbundesanwalt beim Bundesgerichtshof applies to both the prosecutor (=person) as well as the agency they are overseeing. Maybe these two meanings should be modelled as separate items.
The same issue applies to every instance of Federal Commissioner (Q1005815) and State Commission for Data Protection (Q1802121). --Nw520 (talk) 09:14, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

And what worse Wikipedia articles will tend to describe both in the single article - what is not unreasonable at all. But it will explode wikidata modelling. I faintly remember we have something along lines of "is instance of: wikipedia article describing comingled topics" Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 14:35, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
Are you looking for ambiguous Wikidata item (Q122754124)? Swpb (talk) 17:51, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
Probably Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 23:26, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
Do you think that ambiguous Wikidata item (Q122754124) would work here? Or should I put it on "Wikidata is incapable of handling it" pile? Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 21:29, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

FYI, there are currently at least 9500 items that are both instances of position (Q4164871) or its subclasses, and subclasses of occupation (Q12737077) or its subclasses. Each item in each of those 9500 subclass chains may be a proper occupation, or it may be a subclass of position. Take head of state (Q48352) - which is it? If it's a class of positions, then it shouldn't be a subclass of statesperson (Q372436) (assuming that statesperson is an occupation), but it could have occupation (P106) = statesperson instead (if you add Q4164871 to the subject-type constraint on P106). But you will surely get complains that head of state is indeed an occupation, and a proper subclass of statesperson. The closer you look, the more the dividing line vanishes. I think you're going to have to just accept these conflations. I wouldn't apply ambiguous Wikidata item (Q122754124), as it suggests the possibility of a reasonable deconflation. Swpb (talk) 20:13, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

public prosecutor general (Q3368517) is a profession, according to Wikidata ontology
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en: prosecutor (legal representative of the state in criminal trials) [153]

en: government attorneys (type of professional employees in government) [154]
en: lawyer (legal professional who helps clients and represents them in a court of law) [155]
en: legal profession (profession of those who study, develop and apply law – as a lawyer, judge, etc.) [156]
en: profession (occupation requiring specialized training) [157] this was unexpected here as it indicates a profession !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Síndic de Greuges de Catalunya (Q7583851) is a profession, according to Wikidata ontology
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en: ombudsperson (official representing the interests of the public) [158]

en: judge (official who presides over court proceedings) [159]
en: legal profession (profession of those who study, develop and apply law – as a lawyer, judge, etc.) [160]
en: profession (occupation requiring specialized training) [161] this was unexpected here as it indicates a profession !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Projects vs. products

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Project Riese (Q320076) classified as an intentional human activity

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project (Q170584)

intentional human activity (Q451967)

It is. Swpb (talk) 20:10, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

I guess that it describes both constructed structures and project to build them... Not sure how to handle such case on my side Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 12:14, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
Yeah, it's the same issue I raised here. I don't find the conflation satisfying either, but Vicarage is right that splitting all such entities is not practical. You might want to just write an exception for these into your tool. Swpb (talk) 13:39, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

KATRIN (Q316053) is a human activity, according to Wikidata ontology

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en: experiment (scientific procedure carried out to support, refute, or validate a hypothesis) [162]

en: research work (activity performed as part of scientific research) [163]
en: human activity (activity initiated by a human, intentionally or unintentionally) [164] this was unexpected here as it indicates a human activity !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
en: test (way of checking something by interacting with it) [165]
en: intentional human activity (human activity driven by purposeful motives) [166] this was unexpected here as it indicates an intentional human activity !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In the same way as Project Riese (Q320076) above, I'd consider this "unsolvable" in that it's probably counterproductive to try to de-conflate the experiment (activity) from the apparatus of the same name. Swpb (talk) 20:58, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Halls of fame as lists vs. as buildings

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International Tennis Hall of Fame (Q52454) is an award, according to Wikidata ontology

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en: sports hall of fame (hall of fame for topics related to sports) [167]

en: hall of fame (list of outstanding individuals in a particular group, which may or may not be embodied in a literal physical structure) [168]
en: award (something given to a person or a group of people to recognize their merit or excellence) [169] this was unexpected here as it indicates an award !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Change made: [170]. Lots of instances of hall of fame (Q1046088) are intangible lists, lots are buildings, and lots refer to both. It would be impractical to have separate "hall of fame (list)" and "hall of fame (building)" classes and attempt to separate the many, many instances into those two piles. Swpb (talk) 20:25, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Walk of Fame of Cabaret (Q2345775) is an award, according to Wikidata ontology

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en: walk of fame (sidewalk or similar construction that commemorates outstanding individuals in a particular group) [171]

en: award (something given to a person or a group of people to recognize their merit or excellence) [172] this was unexpected here as it indicates an award !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Somewhat fixed - see section on International Tennis Hall of Fame (Q52454) above. Swpb (talk) 20:26, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Blues Hall of Fame (Q258100) is an award, according to Wikidata ontology

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en: Blues Hall of Fame (award by Blues Foundation, since 2015 also a music museum in Memphis, Tennessee) [173]

en: award (something given to a person or a group of people to recognize their merit or excellence) [174] this was unexpected here as it indicates an award !!!

mixing two things in one entry again

Other

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The Bitches (Q878769) (set of rocks) is a physical process, according to Wikidata ontology

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part of problem is that two entities are merged together - or that single entity has two components

still, location with fast-moving tidal flow is still not a physical process

en: tidal race (fast-moving tidal flow passing through a constriction, forming waves, eddies and strong currents) [175]

en: ocean current (continuous, directed movement of ocean water) [176]
en: current (magnitude and direction of flow in a fluid) [177]
en: fluid flow (movement of fluid matter) [178]
en: motion (change in position of an object over time; a body is said to be in motion if it changes its position with respect to its immediate surroundings) [179]
en: movement (act of moving) [180]
en: behavior (actions by entities within a system) [181] this was unexpected here as it indicates a behavior !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
en: change (process, event or action that deviates from the present state) [182]
en: occurrence (occurrence of a fact or object in space-time; instantiation of a property in an object) [183] this was unexpected here as it indicates an event !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
en: physical process (process that can be described with physics) [184] this was unexpected here as it indicates a physical process !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nothing reasonable to be done. Probably not practical to have one item for the rocks and a separate item for the resulting tidal flow (process), which goes by the same name. A query for instances of tidal race (Q495844) should return this item. Swpb (talk) 19:42, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

List of detected issues in OpenStreetMap

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(OSM issue listing is the main project, Wikidata problems are reported when they cause false positives)

more info about this list

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Produced from https://github.com/matkoniecz/wikibrain/blob/master/test_wikidata_structure.py

see also Wikidata talk:WikiProject Ontology (write to me if you solved all what is posted there and here - or at least tried to solve - and want more)

note to self

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adding new cases to Wikidata talk:WikiProject Ontology is fine as long as they are no more than 20% of threads there and this page is overloaded (100 unsolved cases)

ad (to be used when linking it on Wikidata talk:WikiProject Ontology): BTW, if anyone wants listing of other issues like this - see [[User:Mateusz Konieczny/failing testcases]] (some may be easier to solve than this one) ~~~~

Wikidata:Pump - 2023 share done and archived thread linked in one of still unsolved cases

share on #wikimedia on US Slack done in 2023

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I want to advertise my https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Mateusz_Konieczny/failing_testcasesit is listing of cases where I discovered bogus ontology on Wikidata while trying to find bad wikipedia tagsSee https://matkoniecz.github.io/OSM-wikipedia-tag-validator-reports/ and https://maproulette.org/browse/projects/53065 if fixing OSM problems is more important for you

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