Daniel Mietchen
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Inferring language of work from title
editThis is a very bad idea, e.g. https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q35094528&diff=prev&oldid=1616318412. Better not to have a language of work or name (P407) statement than English when it should be French. Charles Matthews (talk) 07:09, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Agreed. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 22:40, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
Duplicate item
editHi there, I was wondering how this item got created - it's a duplicate of a journal article item that already exists. Usually I can see why a duplicate was made (e.g. the original item didn't have a DOI, or orthographic differences in a title) but for this case I have no clue. Prosperosity (talk) 22:22, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- No idea in this case either. Thanks for checking and merging, though. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 22:41, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
Wikimedians for Sustainable Development - August 2024 Newsletter
edit- User group news
- Next user group meeting, 15 September, will be focused on starting to develop a strategy for the group. If you cannot attend, you can leave your input on the ideas page.
- User group meeting held in August (minutes)
- Other news
- Report from WikiProject International Botanical Congress 2024 (SDG 15)
- Meeting for Writing on Femenist Strikes and Wiki for Peace Camp St. Imier (SDG 5 & 16)
- Biodiversity Heritage Library report (SDG 15)
- Wikimania had a lot of SDG related sessions and you can watch them back now
- Events
- Wiki Loves Monuments starts in September (SDG 11)
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Invitation to research workshop on Wikidata users' experience of content gaps
editDear Daniel_Mietchen,
I hope this message finds you well!
We are researchers at King's College London investigating how content gaps arise and can be measured in Wikidata. Currently we have explored existing research papers to identify several categories of gaps. However, we have noted a lack of consideration of editors’ experiences in this existing research and are keen to hear about editors’ views on and methods for identifying and addressing content gaps. While this topic has seen a lot of attention in Wikipedia, we believe Wikidata presents unique challenges and content which warrant further investigation.
We are reaching out as we understand you have previously taken part in a research study with our colleague Kholoud and thought as an active and experienced editor, you may be able to share your experiences with us. We would therefore like to invite you to participate in an interactive online workshop to explore this topic further.
This will consist of a 90 minute online call consisting of a group discussion and collaborative editing of a document (in Miro). We will ask you to rank gaps according to your familiarity and your opinion of their importance, give feedback on which types of metric might be most valuable to you as an editor and give some initial thoughts and potentially even sketches of how a content gap monitoring tool might look for Wikidata.
The main goal of the workshop is to understand your perspectives on how to measure and monitor content gaps as well as potentially identify further metrics or even to propose new methods to identify and quantify gaps in Wikidata. Participation is completely voluntary. All personal data will be kept confidential in compliance with GDPR. If you are interest in taking part, you can find out more about the workshop from our participant information sheet. You can also read more about the research at our meta page.
You can sign-up to take part from our registration form.
The workshop will take place online using Microsoft Teams. We are hoping to host the workshop in the coming weeks, but if you would like to take part and are unavailable during the proposed times, we may be able to find an alternative time.
If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to contact us at anelia.kurteva@kcl.ac.uk and neal.t.reeves@kcl.ac.uk
Thank you for considering taking part in this workshop and supporting our research.
With kind regards, Celestialtoast (talk) 20:18, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
Invitation to Join the Wikidata 12th Birthday Data-thon in India
editDear Daniel Mietchen :)
I'm excited to announce that Wikidata:WikiProject India and various communities across India are planning to celebrate Wikidata's 12th birthday with a special Wikidata Data-thon during the months of October-November 2024. This campaign will focus on improving the quality of content on Wikidata, with a special emphasis on India-related properties and items. Additionally this data-thon also aims to enhance Wikidata items by improving labels and descriptions in the native language, along with the addition of references, qualifiers, and statements contributing to the improvement of structured data in Wikidata.
As part of this celebration, I would like to invite all interested community members and User Groups to join us in this collaborative effort to celebrate this milestone by making Wikidata even better. Please have a look at the event page.
How to Participate:
- Sign up as a participant: If you want to contribute to the data-thon by editing and improving India-related content on Wikidata, please add your name to the participants list here.
- Organize a Data-thon: If you're part of a User Group or community that would like to take the lead in organizing the event, please sign up here to help organize the activities.
If you have any questions or need further information or want to share any ideas and feedback, feel free to reach out on the talk page of Wikiproject India or contact me.
You are receiving this message as you are one of the active participants of WikiProject India on Wikidata. If you do not want to receive this kind of notification further, you can remove your username from here.
Best regards,
Gnoeee 07:17, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Wikimedians for Sustainable Development - September 2024 Newsletter
edit- User group news
- Other news
- Building a sustainable Wikimedia movement: A contribution from the CEE region, presentation at CEE meeting. (YouTube)
- All About Wiki-Green Conference 2024 (SDG 13)
- Events
- Course: Global Approaches to Climate Finance by WikiEdu (SDG 13)
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Checking in
editHi, Daniel! I hope you're doing well. After returning from WikiConference North America, I wrote a blog post on Diff about the importance of in-person conferences. If you're interested, I'd love for you to take a look and share your thoughts!
I was also wondering if we could collaborate on creating and updating Wikidata entries for notable individuals from Central Asia. We could start with this list of outstanding architects, actors, and writers from the region. It would also be fantastic to translate the list into German, especially since I know you're quite active on dewiki.
Let me know what you think! On my side, I'd be happy to help by adding Russian, Turkish, and Uzbek descriptions on Wikidata. Nataev talk 15:37, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Nataev: thanks for the suggestion. That's a nice write-up of your wiki event experiences. We have probably crossed paths at some of them, e.g. in 2012. As for the prize recipients, I wrote a SPARQL query to handle the list and adapted it for Tabernacle to facilitate editing. Adding descriptions or aliases would be straightforward, too, and we could filter out things that are complete in some way. Happy to coordinate further. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 16:55, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Wow, that's amazing! I've never used Tabernacle. Looks cool! Can we also add Turkish to the table? That way I'd also edit the Turkish labels and descriptions. Thank you so much! Nataev talk 17:06, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Nataev: Sure. I added Turkish to both queries and adjusted the links above. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 18:14, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
- Wow, that's amazing! I've never used Tabernacle. Looks cool! Can we also add Turkish to the table? That way I'd also edit the Turkish labels and descriptions. Thank you so much! Nataev talk 17:06, 29 October 2024 (UTC)
Wikimedians for Sustainable Development - October 2024 Newsletter
edit- User group news
- Upcoming meeting, 24 November, 17.00 UTC
- Other news
- Talk at WikiIndaba: Wikimedian collaboration in human knowledge: Wiki For Climate Change in the Maghreb region (SDG 13)
- Championing Inclusion in the Wikimedia Movement: Africa Wiki Women Presentation at the Wiki Niger Conference (SDG 5)
- Mountains, Birds and Lakes: Wiki Loves Earth 2024 – Central Asia Edition (SDG 15)
- Events
- November 6, 12 and 21: Climate Change & Health in the UK - Wikipedia workshop (SDG 3 and 13)
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Empty, unsourced lexemes
editPlease stop creating empty unsourced lexemes and then leaving them empty and unsourced. I already deleted several of those earlier today; please don't make me have to do it again. Mahir256 (talk) 20:08, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- OK, thanks for checking, stopping now, even though I just opened many tabs in order to create new entries. The ones I started today all came (via Ordia) from scholarly articles or Wikipedia articles on scholarly topics, so from actual usage rather than dictionaries — not sure how to source that properly. Re these lexeme entries being "empty": I often enrich existing entries, including bare-bone ones, but I find it more convenient to decouple that activity from the creation of lexeme entries. For instance, I like to record pronunciation files based on SPARQL-generated lists of existing lexemes with no pronunciation audio (P443) statement. Do we have an entity schema for a lexeme stub? Is there a workflow that you would recommend for starting lexeme entries? --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 20:33, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- If you really want to cite usage of lexemes in scholarly articles, you can add quotations from those articles using the gloss quote (P8394) property, either on the lexemes themselves (such as found on cat (L7)) or on their senses (such as found on the senses of have (L1885)). I don't know how much heavy lifting the word "often" is doing in your sentence, or how vaguely defined your notion of "enrich" is, but I have seen often enough the result of "decoupling" lexeme improvement steps eventually being "completely forgetting to add other information", and am disinclined to believe anyone is immune to this forgetting when they do perform this "decoupling". (I should remind you here that I had briefly blocked you for similar behavior that was reported two years ago.) This is why I ask others to provide sources for lexemes in their language when they create them, with this request rising to a demand the more greatly-resourced a language is. I don't believe there are EntitySchemata for lexeme stubs since what a 'stub' looks like will depend on the language-lexical category pair, but if you are going to continue to create new lexeme entries, then I demand (given that English is the highest-resourced language in the world) that you add one of the properties noted under the bullet point "The evidence for the existence of a lexeme may be indicated in a number of ways:" in the "Should there be a lexeme for it?" section of this page—with greater preference for the earlier bullet points should it be possible to provide them. (Many external identifiers for English may be searched for using Mishramilan (মিশ্রমিলন).) Mahir256 (talk) 20:52, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, these pointers are useful. I generally don't "want to cite usage of lexemes in scholarly articles" but I am mostly looking for technical terms representing senses that are likely to have or merit a dedicated item to link to. Some of these might be in relevant ontologies, some in dictionaries, some in both or neither, and so far, I haven't looked at that systematically. I'll keep it in mind going forward. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 21:42, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- If you really want to cite usage of lexemes in scholarly articles, you can add quotations from those articles using the gloss quote (P8394) property, either on the lexemes themselves (such as found on cat (L7)) or on their senses (such as found on the senses of have (L1885)). I don't know how much heavy lifting the word "often" is doing in your sentence, or how vaguely defined your notion of "enrich" is, but I have seen often enough the result of "decoupling" lexeme improvement steps eventually being "completely forgetting to add other information", and am disinclined to believe anyone is immune to this forgetting when they do perform this "decoupling". (I should remind you here that I had briefly blocked you for similar behavior that was reported two years ago.) This is why I ask others to provide sources for lexemes in their language when they create them, with this request rising to a demand the more greatly-resourced a language is. I don't believe there are EntitySchemata for lexeme stubs since what a 'stub' looks like will depend on the language-lexical category pair, but if you are going to continue to create new lexeme entries, then I demand (given that English is the highest-resourced language in the world) that you add one of the properties noted under the bullet point "The evidence for the existence of a lexeme may be indicated in a number of ways:" in the "Should there be a lexeme for it?" section of this page—with greater preference for the earlier bullet points should it be possible to provide them. (Many external identifiers for English may be searched for using Mishramilan (মিশ্রমিলন).) Mahir256 (talk) 20:52, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia studies
editHi Daniel. About this edition, I think you can deduce that from the instance "scientific article" and the "topic" -> "Wikipedia", without having to add Wikipedia as a subject of academic studies (Q870337) because it is duplicating information, don't you think? Why do you think it is necessary to put it back? Thank you. Vanbasten 23 (talk) 14:05, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Vanbasten 23: Thanks for thinking along. I am also a bit uncomfortable with this somewhat duplicate tagging. It can be justified to some extent, though: (i) a number of Wikipedias have an entry for Academic studies about Wikipedia, and the Wikidata item Wikipedia as a subject of academic studies (Q870337) follows from that; (ii) there are multiple Wikipedias, yet most academic studies look only at one (and English Wikipedia (Q328) in particular), which is then often used for main subject (P921) tagging, while all of them could be tagged with Wikipedia as a subject of academic studies (Q870337); (iii) sometimes, Wikipedia might be in the title because it was used rather than studied, for which I would like to see a sharper distinction between main subject (P921) and describes a project that uses (P4510), which could perhaps introduce some helpful nuance here. --Daniel Mietchen (talk) 18:28, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for the response. Despite this, I still do not understand its usefulness as it is. Regarding point 1, this article exists in several Wikipedias, but it is a list that can be built perfectly with the instance and the topic, without the need for anything else. Regarding point 2, if necessary you can specify "Wikipedia in X language" in the topic, but with a query you can get all the possible languages, without problem. Regarding point 3, you are right that one thing is not the same as the other, but if we think about what usually appears in main subject (P921) there are concepts such as "rowing", "cancer", "Wikipedia", but not something as extensive as Wikipedia as a subject of academic studies (Q870337). I would see it fine if you were putting it in "instance of" instead of "scientific article" and Wikipedia as a subject of academic studies (Q870337) was a type of scientific article, but that's not how I see it. Take care. CC: @Madamebiblio: --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 19:03, 15 November 2024 (UTC)