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Best regards! --Tobias1984 (talk) 14:40, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Babel

Babel lets you view and edit more than one language on Wikidata. Just add e.g. {{#babel:de-N|en-3|es-1|fr-2|nl-3|it-4|da-0}} to your user page. With the same language codes you can add links to your userpage on Wikipedia e.g. de:User:User123. --Tobias1984 (talk) 14:40, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Merging items

Hallo Olga,

When you are merging items, please use the Merge.js gadget. It helps you nominating, gives the option to always keep the lower number (which is older, so preferable) and makes it a lot easier for the admins to process the requests.

With regards, - - (Cycn/talk) 11:17, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

• OK, I will try next time, but I don't sure that I understand, how it works. --Olga^@ 11:40, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
  • It took me some time as well, but I think it was worth the effort. - - (Cycn/talk) 12:12, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

re

Please see my comment at User talk:YMS#Disambiguation page.--GZWDer (talk) 15:06, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

• I merged Dragon & Дракон before your message and it is right because page "Dragon" in Russian is something else, & this two pages are linked in ruwiki, for users it is much better, with Q13219783 I don't sure, I don't understand Korean & don't know, what this two pages are, but hebrew link have to be in "Dragon" for sure, it has the same content. Olga^@ 15:38, 14 January 2014 (UTC) By the way "Дракон" & דרקון - exactly the same pronounsation (Drakon) --Olga^@ 16:02, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Q1931708

You merged Q16673110 (ru:Ма) to Q1931708. However, Q1931708 refers to Chinese surname Ma (马), and ru:Ма includes disambiguation entries more than the Chinese surname. The merge was reverted. Unfortunately Q16673110 has been deleted. You may create another item for ru:Ма. And Wikidata can create redirect page now. When you merge items, you may change the merged item to a redirect, not ask to delete it. The option of creating redirect page can be found at Merge.js for merge. Thanks. --Neo-Jay (talk) 11:51, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

I will better split the russian disambig. Thanks for informing me.--Olga^@ 12:12, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks.--Neo-Jay (talk) 00:58, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

wrong merge

Hello, you merged Willems (Q18537364) (family name Willems) into Willems (Q1550649) (disambiguation Willems). If you want to do this, please
1) edit enwiki page en:Willems to make it into a real disambiguation (it is not classified as one at the moment)
2) only move the enwiki link from Q18537364 to Q1550649, but do not merge both items, because the family name item is used by many other items with family name (P734), see Special:WhatLinksHere/Q18537364
Holger1959 (talk) 15:22, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

• Russian disambig has only family name Willems, and English page has other uses in see also, there is no other disambid in English, I think I did all right.--Quaerite 15:44, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

no: the family name item is in systematic use here on Wikidata, merging it (= blanking and redirecting) leads to systematic problems, again see Special:WhatLinksHere/Q18537364

and maybe have a look at Wikidata:WikiProject Disambiguation pages/guidelines. the enwiki page is no disambiguation, which is more a technical definition, also see a set index article is not a disambiguation page. On enwiki disambiguations are always marked with {disambig} or similar templates.

Holger1959 (talk) 15:55, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

correct merge, but…

Here's an other case, where i can maybe show what you could (or should) also look at when merging two different items.

With [1] you merged two "Landau (family name)" items. For the linked wiki pages this was perfect! :) But you have probably noticed - before the merge – that the item with the ruwiki link was wrongly marked as a disambiguation item. After the merge the other family name item had wrong descriptions for 7 languages, one wrong label ("egyértelműsítő lap" in Hungarian means disambiguation page), and the wrong P31 'instance of' = disambiguation page. This lead to conflicts with the real disambiguation item Landau (Q227439).

I already changed this [2], so you don't have to do anything now. Holger1959 (talk) 16:17, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

• I think the problem is in ruwiki template, because both Willems and Landau (family name) are marked in ruwiki with template "family name list"--Quaerite (talk) 16:35, 2 January 2015 (UTC) About Willems I understood, but why property can't work with redirect? --Quaerite (talk) 16:39, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

yes, the ruwiki template "family name list" is a bit problematic, because it is not clear if pages should be counted as articles or as disambiguation pages (and on Wikidata we must decide; a link can only be connected to one item). There were discussions in the past about adapting this template (and similar templates like in cswiki), but i don't know the results.

for properties and redirects the problem is similar to Wikipedia, for example when you make an article into a disambiguation and don't fix links afterwards. Either links on other pages (here: statements in other items) stay uncorrected for a longer time (check Special:WhatLinksHere), or connected items are changed automatically (by bots) after moves/merges, which can go wrong when old/merged statements are not removed. If the new item is wrongly marked as a disambiguation (by P31), many items end up as Constraint violations and need manual fixing by other users (if you don't fix it yourself). This is especially confusing when descriptions in various languages are different after merging (some say "family name", others say "disambiguation"). In the Landau case it was easy to correct, but I'm sure you have also seen more complicated cases. Holger1959 (talk) 17:40, 3 January 2015 (UTC)