Keren - WMIL

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Congratulations for your first data import with OpenRefine! If you encounter any issues with this tool, do not hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Keep up the good work! − Pintoch (talk) 16:53, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

collection (P195)

I see you're importing paintings from Israel. Great! I noticed on Mother and Daughter (Q61717774) that you didn't add collection (P195) directly, but only as a qualifier. Could you please do that for future uploads? Also keep an eye on Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Location/Israel. I plan to add the different museums you added to the list for good overview. Multichill (talk) 13:57, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Hoi Multichill, thanks for your comment and action! I guess I got confused by the instructions described here. Perhaps it would be good to add collection (P195) to the list in the table and mention explicitly that it should be included as a separate property, not just as part of inventory number (P217) (maybe also add here). Dankjewel! Keren - WMIL (talk) 14:28, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree that those pages might be a bit confusing. Anyway, now you know :-)

Some improvements you could do too in your next batch:

• Add a reference to every statement, you seem to have missed a couple
• The reference is currently only reference URL (P854), you should also include retrieved (P813)
• You added made from material (P186) -> canvas (Q4259259). So canvas is currently a bit messy on Wikidata. We usually use canvas (Q12321255) with applies to part (P518) -> painting support (Q861259) (for example: The Night Watch (Q219831)). We haven't really sorted this out. Just so you're aware of it.

Maybe you can add some of the missing art museums to Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Location/Israel? I already added the one for which you imported works.

Are you going to complete Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Collection/Israel Museum? Would love to get those missing paintings on Wikidata. Multichill (talk) 15:17, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for this feedback! I'll try to implement all your comments in the next batch (1000 items). As for SOAP – isn't that automatically updated? All I'm doing is scraping the Israeli Museum Portal and taking the visual art items. I'm afraid adding images is not possible. Keren - WMIL (talk) 15:52, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

So the pages like Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Location/Israel are manual pages to keep notes, see for example the Netherlands. The lists like Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Collection/Israel Museum only have to be created once and will auto update every month or when you do a manual update.

I understand about the images. I'm interested in getting an item for every work in the Israel Museum. Multichill (talk) 17:37, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

To get back to what properties to add, Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Most used painting properties gives an easy overview. I just included it in some statistics I was sharing with Shani. Multichill (talk) 20:47, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Hey Multichill, I want to upload a second batch and I was wondering if there is a way to specify in OpenRefine that if made from material (P186) is canvas (Q12321255) then it needs a qualifier applies to part (P518) -> painting support (Q861259). Can that be done with the schema or do I need to change my data structure? Keren - WMIL (talk) 17:46, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

I'm very inexperienced with OpenRefine, but judging from File:OR-WD-inverse-listeria-preview.png you can just add qualifiers in the schema (from here). Multichill (talk) 21:30, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Qualifiers yes, but not conditional on value (i.e., only if the material is canvas). Guess I'll need to restructure my data... Keren - WMIL (talk) 13:21, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

Israel Museum paintings

Hi Keren, hope you're doing well. I came across Wikidata:Dataset Imports/Israeli Museum Portal and am wondering what the status is. I do notice some paintings on Wikidata:WikiProject sum of all paintings/Collection/Israel Museum, but quite a lot are missing. Are you still planning to import those? That would be nice. Multichill (talk) 10:06, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Multichill, I intend to continue the work on this dataset, hopefully in the coming few weeks. However, just to clarify - the Israeli Museum Portal is not a portal for the Israel Museum but rather a portal for many (but not all) museums in Israel (also including the Israel Museum)... Keren - WMIL (talk) 13:57, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

height (P2048)/width (P2049)

Hi Keren, I see in your contributions from Israeli museums portal, at least for Hecht Museum, that you are only adding width (P2049) and not height (P2048), while both should come together. Could you update your model to include the latter in future contributions? Thanks --Nono314 (talk) 21:40, 29 November 2019 (UTC)