Wikidata:Property proposal/BSD Portal bobsledder ID

Description	identifier for bobsledder, luger and skeleton racer in the Bob- und Schlittenverband für Deutschland (BSD) database
Represents	Bob- und Schlittenverband für Deutschland (Q887741)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	bobsledder (Q13383011), skeleton racer (Q13388442), luger (Q13382981) and al.
Allowed values	String
Example	Anna Fernstädt (Q18616324) → skeleton/athleten/anna-fernstaedt Francesco Friedrich (Q108156) → bob/athleten/francesco-friedrich Tatjana Hüfner (Q240751) → rennrodeln/athleten/tatjana-huefner
Source	http://www.bsd-portal.de
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	Template:Sports links (Q22674492)
Formatter URL	http://www.bsd-portal.de/sport/$1/
See also	IBSF athlete ID (P2991), British Bobsleigh & Skeleton Association ID (P4470)

The main database for German bobsleigh, luge and skeleton competitors. Website can be used in several Wikipedias as source for biographies. ID will be used in Template:Sports links (Q22674492) Louis.attene (talk) 10:46, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I have widened this so that we can get skeleton racers as well. Thierry Caro (talk) 10:52, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Thierry Caro: and luge not? You widended but url changes! Are you sure that it will work?--Louis.attene (talk) 10:56, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it will. The IDs will be longer though. Thierry Caro (talk) 11:04, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support, as modified. Thierry Caro (talk) 10:55, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose @Thierry Caro Usually these properties are "unique value" and "single value", in this way instead if the athlete has multiple profiles, you have to use multiple values. I am against this approach. Having three different properties is a lot more clear and simple, for Wikidata and Wikipedia template users. --Rotpunkt (talk) 11:24, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Rotpunkt: Are there actually many people in this database with multiple pages? Thierry Caro (talk) 16:04, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know, however athletes can be both bobsledder and skeleton racer (like w:de:Giovanni Mulassano). In any case I would never join these three properties. --Rotpunkt (talk) 16:27, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not only italian athlete Giovanni Mulassano, w:it:Kimberley Bos, w:it:Marina Gilardoni and other, but at the moment, no germans. Howerver, in fact, it's extremely rare to have athletes who compete in bobsled and skeleton at the same time, due to different training--Louis.attene (talk) 20:57, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support David (talk) 17:24, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Gabbg82 (talk) 20:24, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Louis.attene, Gabbg82, ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Rotpunkt: Does anybody of you oppose creating the property as Thierry Caro suggests as one single property and then marking the other BSD properties as not done? ChristianKl (✉) 18:39, 2 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]