Wikidata:Property proposal/British Museum thesauri
British Museum thesaurus ID
editOriginally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control
Description | identifier in the British Museum thesaurus: object type, ceramics ware, subject... |
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Represents | British Museum thesauri (Q28693490) |
Data type | External identifier |
Domain | various |
Allowed values | x\d+ |
Example |
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Source | see below |
Formatter URL | http://collection.britishmuseum.org/id/thesauri/$1 |
- Motivation
The British Museum has a number of thesauri that are important for cultural heritage, yet not coreferenced to anything in the world. I think BM would see it as a major win if the community helps them to coreference. I considered the thesauri in 3 major groups:
- British Museum person or institution ID (P1711): created
- Wikidata:Property proposal/British Museum place: proposed
- The rest: BM-thes-count.txt heading GLOBAL: 28 more thesauri with 26804 entries. They can be put in the same prop since they all use the same namespace.
I won't lie, WD doesn't include some important entries for artistic periods/styles. Eg the two marked (*) above are problematic:
- Alhambra style is different from the place where it originated,
- Brocot watch escapement is different from the person who created it.
But by putting these thesauri out in Mix-n-Match, we'll create visibility and let the community tackle this question.
I'd say that among these 28, the most important ones are:
- thes:ethname 3351
- thes:matcult 1483
- thes:material 2044
- thes:nationality 250
- thes:political-state 191
- thes:school 482
- thes:state 263
- thes:subject 1442
- thes:technique 598
- thes:object 5845
- thes:ware 666 (ceramics ware)
- thes:escape 88 (clock escapement)
Sources:
- https://github.com/findsorguk/bmThesauri for CSV, but this lacks altLabel, broader, scheme
- https://confluence.ontotext.com/display/ResearchSpace/Meta-Thesaurus+and+FR+Names#Meta-ThesaurusandFRNames-BMThesaurus for scheme name & description.
- http://collection.britishmuseum.org/sparql for data. Eg the query below gets 2 of the thesauri (but not altLabels...)
prefix thes: <http://collection.britishmuseum.org/id/thesauri/> select ?x ?label ?descr ?broader ?scheme ?schDescr { filter (?s in (thes:escape, thes:ware)) ?x skos:inScheme ?s; skos:prefLabel ?label. ?s rdfs:label ?scheme optional {?x skos:broader [skos:prefLabel ?broader]} optional {?x skos:scopeNote ?descr} optional {?s rdfs:comment ?schDescr} }
Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 15:57, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
- Discussion
- Support - sounds like an excellent resource to link to, and having a single namespace greatly simplifies this, let's get this added! ArthurPSmith (talk) 16:59, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
- Support. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:12, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
- Support does the data have a license? -- JakobVoss (talk) 13:36, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
- Support Jheald (talk) 11:11, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
- Question: how closely can we match the "Erlangen" schema that the BM uses for predicates (and to define some broad classes) in its SPARQL store? Can we identify most of them with properties/items here ? Jheald (talk) 11:11, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
- @Jheald: That's CIDOC CRM. Its classes are quite abstract (most everything interesting is E24 Man-Made Thing), and props not too specific for our purposes. --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 15:12, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
- Support. Uomovariabile (talk) 11:19, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
- Support. Yes to more matching with datasets that describe art and culture terminology. Wikidata indeed still misses a lot of terms for styles and cultures, I have noticed that, and this is another instrument that will help us improve that. Spinster 💬 14:27, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
- @Vladimir Alexiev, Pigsonthewing, JakobVoss, YULdigitalpreservation, Jheald, Spinster: @ArthurPSmith, Uomovariabile: Done--GZWDer (talk) 14:49, 16 February 2017 (UTC)