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Wikidata:Property proposal/Candidate position

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Candidate Position edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Organization

Descriptioncandidate position within party
Representscandidate position (Q109320220)
Data typeString
Domainqualifier
Example 1Christina Aryani (Q96988349) candidacy in election (P3602) → 2014 Indonesian People's Representative Council election (Q108816797) → qualifier:Candidate Position: 3
Example 2Cem Özdemir (Q12839) candidacy in election (P3602) → 2021 German federal election (Q27123005) → qualifier: Candidate Position: 2 ref
See also
  • candidate number (P4243): number of the candidate in an election
  • P4243 values
  • series ordinal (P1545): position of an item in its parent series (most frequently a 1-based index), generally to be used as a qualifier (different from "rank" defined as a class, and from "ranking" defined as a property for evaluating a quality).

Motivation edit

  WikiProject every politician has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead. While importing Indonesian politicians, I ran across a lack to indicate the candidate position within an political party AND electoral district. Having a higher (ie. 1 or 2) position will get into parliament first when the party gets enough percent. In Indonesian, the word is urut or urutan. In Germany, it's called Listenplatz, and also important to who gets into parliament.

I know we have candidate number and series ordinal but it's too ambiguous. Germartin1 (talk) 17:44, 29 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion edit

  •   Support That makes sense. –MJL ‐Tauk‐☖ 17:53, 29 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I used series ordinal to describe position on the list when I entered the New Zealand general election candidates to Wikidata, and would have preferred to have a more specific property. I think your property description could be clearer though? As I understand your proposal, it is intended to record the position of the candidate on a ranked list of candidates before the election, is that right? (That's the property that I would be keen to have). However it is possible that what you have written could be interpreted as the final candidate position after the election? (In NZ at least these positions on the list can be different things, as some candidates on the list get into parliament through an electorate instead of through the list, thus changing the number of the list of everyone coming below them). I think it should be clarified what the property is for or people trying to use the data down the line will not know how to interpret it.
We also had a situation in the last election in NZ where several unregistered political parties collaborated together to make a list of MPs to create one list of candidates, so their list position is not "within the party". DrThneed (talk) 21:17, 29 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes what I mean it's not the final result position. It's the position before the election. I thought "candidate" is clear enough, but I'll try to elaborate it more. Germartin1 (talk) 18:42, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It's not election specific either. Germartin1 (talk) 18:42, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It should really be called something like "Candidate number ID" tbh –MJL ‐Tauk‐☖ 20:35, 18 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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