Wikidata:Property proposal/Cartridge case rim
rim type edit
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic
Not done
| Description | this property would describe the type of rim that a firearm cartridge case has |
|---|---|
| Represents | rim (Q128367) |
| Data type | Item |
| Template parameter | "type" in en:Template:Infobox firearm cartridge |
| Domain | cartridge (Q37144) |
| Allowed values | rimless (Q29842379), rimmed (Q29842212), semi-rimmed (Q29842410), rebated rim (Q29842473), belted (Q29842449), grooveless (Q29842430) |
| Example | |
| Planned use | I will implement it into Template:Infobox firearm cartridge (Q6289330) on the Slovenian Wikipedia |
- Motivation
To have the same data in infoboxes for cartridges across all language Wikipedias. --M11rtinb (talk) 11:59, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
- Discussion
- I think has characteristic (P1552) is good enough for this use case. ChristianKl (talk) 12:46, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Oppose @ChristianKl, M11rtinb: This is a specific typing property. We’re actually discussing types and subtypes of cartridge (Q37144) that should be handled using instance of (P31) and subclass of (P279) (see Help:BMP and Help:Classification). rimless (Q29842379), rimmed (Q29842212), semi-rimmed (Q29842410), rebated rim (Q29842473), belted (Q29842449), grooveless (Q29842430) are all subclasses of munitions (not instances) To express that munitions can be rimmed, semi-rimmed or rimless, you could use one statement like ⟨ cartridge (Q37144)- this means «a cartridge (Q37144)
⟩ disjoint union of (P2738) ⟨ list of values as qualifiers (Q23766486) ⟩
list item (P11260) ⟨ rimless (Q29842379) ⟩
list item (P11260) ⟨ rimmed (Q29842212) ⟩
list item (P11260) ⟨ semi-rimmed (Q29842410) ⟩
list item (P11260) ⟨ rebated rim (Q29842473) ⟩ can be either rimmed, semi rimmed or unrimmed, but nether remmed and unrimmed (or rimmed and semi rimmed or …) . And maybe ⟨ rim ⟩ union of (P2737)or ⟨ list of values as qualifiers (Q23766486) ⟩
list item (P11260) ⟨ belted (Q29842449) ⟩
list item (P11260) ⟨ grooveless (Q29842430) ⟩⟨ rim ⟩ disjoint union of (P2738)depending if a rim can be both or not.author TomT0m / talk page 12:14, 20 May 2017 (UTC) ⟨ list of values as qualifiers (Q23766486) ⟩
list item (P11260) ⟨ belted (Q29842449) ⟩
list item (P11260) ⟨ grooveless (Q29842430) ⟩- I've tried to modify cartridge (Q37144) based on your idea. Please check if it was done correctly. --08:21, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
- @TomT0m: But how could this be implemented in a Wikipedia infobox? If a cartridge is both an instance of rifle cartridge (Q7333267) and rimmed (Q29842212), how could I specify that I only want the value that describes the type of rim? --M11rtinb (talk) 18:12, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
Not done Lack of support.--Micru (talk) 14:34, 15 September 2017 (UTC)