Wikidata:Property proposal/Les roses cultivées à l'Haÿ en 1902 ID

Les roses cultivées à l'Haÿ en 1902 ID edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Natural science

Done: Les Roses cultivées à L'Haÿ en 1902 ID (P8662) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier in "Les roses cultivées à l'Haÿ en 1902: essai de classement" by Jules Gravereaux
Represents	Les Roses cultivées à L'Haÿ en 1902 (Q96634446)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	rose cultivar (Q26817508) mainly
Allowed values	`([1-6]\d{3}\|[1-9]\d{0,2})`
Example 1	Rosa 'Jules Margottin' (Q60964948) → 4183
Example 2	Rosa 'Alphonse Soupert' (Q96623274) → 4184
Example 3	Rosa 'Comte Adrien de Germiny' (Q60965024) → 4194
Example 4	Rosa 'Ferdinand de Lesseps' (Q60964637) → 3856
Example 5	Rosa 'Louis XIV' (Q83668696) → 3961
Example 6	Rosa 'Parfum de l'Haÿ' (Q4048501) → 5581
Example 7	Rosa 'Madame Eugène Verdier' (Q62053841) → 3993
Example 8	Rosa 'Madame Scipion Cochet' (Q83672542) → 4876
Example 9	Rosa 'Madame de La Bastié' (Q83672527) → 4797
Example 10	Rosa 'Madame Hippolyte Jamain' (Q96637517) → 4830
Planned use	add to some items about rose cultivars
Number of IDs in source	about 6700
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)

Motivation edit

Provides a simple way to cross-reference our items about cultivars with some known and grown in 1902 (Add your motivation for this property here.) --- Jura 18:06, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Salicyna, Crazy1880‎: what do you think of it? --- Jura 16:26, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Notified participants of WikiProject Botany --- Jura 18:19, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion edit

Question : do these numbers have real world use outside of Les Roses cultivées à L'Haÿ en 1902 (Q96634446)? That is, do other databases use them, and/or do horticulturists commonly refer to "l'Haÿ no. 3961" or "Gravereaux no. 3961" when talking about Rosa 'Louis XIV' (Q83668696) in the same way an entomologist might use "Hodges number 5546" when referring to Anemosella nevalis (Q4761674)? Could these cultivars have different numbers in different publications, and/or are there more universal identifiers for rose cultivars that might be used instead? -Animalparty (talk) 23:19, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- taxon name (P225) on cultivars should have a smiliar function as on your sample. As most others identifiers of your sample, this identifier is primarily one to look up the cultivar in the "database". --- Jura 03:38, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support seems well enough defined, with enough items in the list. --99of9 (talk) 01:19, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Jura1, Animalparty, 99of9:

Done Les Roses cultivées à L'Haÿ en 1902 ID (P8662) Pamputt (talk) 20:32, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]