Wikidata:Property proposal/MuIS collection ID

MuIS collection ID edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work

Done: MuIS collection ID (P5656) (Talk and documentation)

Description	identifier for a collection in the Estonian museum database MuIS
Data type	External identifier
Domain	collection (Q2668072), most commonly art collection (Q7328910)
Allowed values	[1-9]\d*
Example 1	Tartu Art Museum's watercolor collection (Q55986654) → 419
Example 2	Tartu Art Museum's painting collection (Q55986655) → 442
Example 3	Kristjan Raud House Museum Collection (Q55986738) → 1110
Source	MuIS (Q50211618)
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	Indicate the specific collections for artworks imported from MuIS
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974) (on the assumption that all museum collections qualify for WD even if all individual items might not)
Formatter URL	https://www.muis.ee/rdf/collection/$1 (XML/RDF only)
Robot and gadget jobs	This is specifically intended to facilitate bot use
See also	MuIS person or group ID (P4889), MuIS object ID (P4525)

Motivation edit

This is useful to automatically assign the right collection to items when importing them with MuISBot (right now it's setting the museum itself as the collection, but we've talked about it and thought it would make sense to use the specific collection indicated in MuIS). Reosarevok (talk) 12:39, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion edit

Should use formatter URI for RDF resource (P1921) rather than formatter URL (P1630). Reosarevok (talk) 12:39, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment How any of these IDs exist? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:34, 8 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I don't have an exact number right now, but I imagine at least a thousand, judging by the ID numbers. Every collection of every public museum in Estonia should have one. --Reosarevok (talk) 17:22, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Estonian museum database (MuIS) presents how museums themselves divide their items. So this isn't just MuIS identifier but also shows how museum items are divided into collections in real life. Like an art museum may have 'painting collection', 'graphic arts collection', 'sculpture collection', 'photo collection', etc. Kruusamägi (talk) 13:52, 9 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject sum of all paintings has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead. to try to get some comments here one way or another, since it's to be used for paintings at first anyway :) --Reosarevok (talk) 14:12, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support Thanks for pinging! Getting any data for sub-institution collections – be it only identification and names – is a crucial step for art data here. Would be good to know how many IDs we're talking about. How do you do the matching? The database is CC0 and at least tries to use CIDOC Conceptual Reference Model (Q624005), great to get links to it! --Marsupium (talk) 07:35, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- @Marsupium: Right now, matching would be done by hand, since we'd mostly add the collections we're already imported or are planning to import, so it'd be fairly easy. Eventually, we might want to import the basic data of the collections more automatically - that should also be doable, since I expect none of these subcollections actually exist in Wikidata right now other than the ones we'll be adding (and those we will make sure they already have an ID so they aren't duplicated later). --Reosarevok (talk) 06:57, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Marsupium, Reosarevok, Kruusamägi, Pigsonthewing: Done: MuIS collection ID (P5656). − Pintoch (talk) 08:25, 19 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]