Wikidata:Property proposal/Stardate

Stardate

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work

Withdrawn

Description	Stardate
Represents	stardate (Q1262613)
Data type	Quantity
Domain	TV Episodes, Films, Books, Comics, Video Games set in Star Trek universe (Q18043309)
Allowed values	positive float *
Allowed units	no units.
Example	Homestead (Q5890492) → narrative location (P840) → Delta Quadrant (Q42650623) point in time (P585) → 2378-04-05 Stardate → 54868.6 Tuvok (Q9108122) → date of birth (P569) → 2264 Stardate → 38774 Cloak (Q5134744) → narrative location (P840) → Star Trek universe (Q18043309) point in time (P585) → unknown Stardate → 5462.1
Source	Article on Stardate in Memory Alpha
Planned use	Add Stardates to every episode

* note that i did not use the Help:Data_type#time because there is no underlying or consistently used calendar for stardates

Motivation

The number can be used to indicate the relative narrative time in which a story happens. For instance the novel Cloak (Q5134744) (5462.1) happens roughly between The Empath (Q3487409) (5121.5) and For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky (Q3488452) (5476.3). The production/release order of Star Trek: The Original Series (Q1077)-Episodes does not reflect the narrative order. Stardate might be a better indicator in some cases.--Shisma (talk)

Discussion

My first instinct is against creating a Star Treck specific property. My second is to ask whether there's a way to generalize it. Are there other time systems taht work similarly and could be also covered by this way? ChristianKl (talk) 17:37, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- I had the same thought. but I discovered P1112 (P1112) which is also very specific. --Shisma (talk) 18:19, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  - I created a property deletion request for P1112 (P1112). ChristianKl (talk) 19:38, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  - There is just no relation with a Pokedex number. I think it makes sense to use a quantity property for Stardate as Wikidata time properties can't hold this calendar.
    --- Jura 19:51, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comment how about changing this to "date in fictional calendar" and using the unit to indicate the fictional time unit? − Pintoch (talk) 14:56, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I agree with Pintoch this should be more generic, "date in fictional calendar" sounds good although would Quantity datatype work for other examples of that? ArthurPSmith (talk) 15:35, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I'd like a more generic approach too. How about using something generic like Time Index in the same way as this Proposal:

Homestead (Q5890492) →

narrative location (P840) → Delta Quadrant (Q42650623)
point in time (P585) → 2378-04-05

Time index → 54868.6 [Stardate units]

Tuvok (Q9108122) →

date of birth (P569) → 2264
Time index → 38774 [Stardate units]

Cloak (Q5134744) →

narrative location (P840) → Star Trek universe (Q18043309)
point in time (P585) → unknown

Time index → 5462.1 [Stardate units]

--Shisma (talk) 19:48, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]