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Wikidata:Property proposal/Unified Social Credit Identifier

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Unified Social Credit IDEdit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

Descriptiononly 18-digit legal identification code at this time; permanent throughout the country for all legal persons and other organizations in China
RepresentsUnified Social Credit Identifier (Q48896117)
Data typeExternal identifier
Template parametercom_code =
Domainany
Allowed valuesConsists of 18 digits, accoring to mandatory Guobiao GB 32100-2015: Equivalent regular expression: [1-9ANY][123459](100000|11010[1-9]|1101[1-9]\d|110[2-9]\d{2}|11[1-9]\d{3}|[2-5]\d{5}|6[0-4]\d{4}|65[0-8]\d{3}|6590\d{2}|990000)[0-9A-Z]{8}[0-9X][0-9A-Y]
Example 1Shandong Buchang Pharma (Q30261306) → 91370000728611939A
Example 2State Grid Corporation of China (Q209078) → 9111000071093123XX
Example 3China State Railway Group Co.,Ltd. (Q1073489) → 91100000000013477B
Example 4China Soong Ching Ling Foundation (Q10873646) → 13100000500010213J
Example 5China Red Cross Foundation (Q10874054) → 531000005000160090
Example 6China Welfare Institute (Q10874014) → 5110000050001963XY
Example 7Supreme People’s Court of the People's Republic of China (Q691994) → 11100000MB1789023A
Example 8Supreme People's Procuratorate (Q2682024) → 11100000000011519T
Example 9Jing'an Temple (Q403189) → 71310106424845496E
Example 10Xinjiang Production and Construction Corps (Q1323296) → 119900000106319731
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
See also

MotivationEdit

Since this code is used for identify all legal persons and registered orgnaizations in Mainland China, I think that adding this property would help. 笔尖留痕 (talk) 16:09, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

DiscussionEdit

  •   Support -- – The preceding unsigned comment was added by ArthurPSmith (talk • contribs) at 18:30, 7 May 2019 (UTC) (UTC).
  •   Oppose Yes indeed this property would be helpful, but for who? Imho Wikidata should not support organisations or goverments that use mass surveillance, see en:Social Credit System. --Kolja21 (talk) 23:02, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
    • For everyone. You can find the organization's registration information from the uniform registry at https://www.cods.org.cn/ , or for companies, also http://www.gsxt.gov.cn/ , and this code is the only reference ID for each of them. From the coding structure, it is only an extension of the original "Code for the Representation of Organization" (组织机构代码), defined in GB 11714, and you can see the legacy of this old code. That's not used for mass surveillance. It has been acturally there for more than 20 years. --笔尖留痕 (talk) 02:11, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
    • It's just the company's registration number for identification purposes in the state's system, similary the US have taxpayer identifier, social security number for similar purposes. Viztor (talk) 01:54, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support, It only like a registration code of bank credit evaluation system Similarly which operated by Nature Gov.--Cwek (talk) 03:39, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support. Equivalent regular expression added to the proposal. Dhx1 (talk) 10:45, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support. An important national level identifier.--YFdyh000 (talk) 13:51, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
  •   SupportSupport, but instead of com_code, but should be named org_code, those registrations numbers are not just issued to company but all kinds of registered organization Viztor (talk) 01:50, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
  •   Support as "Unified Social Credit ID" and with property that might violate privacy. ChristianKl❫ 09:07, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
  Done @笔尖留痕, Kolja21, Viztor, Cwek, Dhx1, YFdyh000: --99of9 (talk) 23:47, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
  • I removed "property that may violate privacy" and "Wikidata property for authority control for people". I admit this might be a confusing name, but as of today, it is only for organizations and not people.
    • @99of9: Please don't revert the deletion of "property that may violate privacy", this is simply not applicable because the code is not for people, but for orgs only, which by definition has nothing to do with privacy. Viztor (talk) 23:57, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
      • I reverted because it was explicitly supported by @ChristianKl: above, so you should discuss this before removing it. As to your point, the description is "for all legal persons and other organizations in China", which clearly includes people. But I do agree it's best not to use on people without at least reading those warnings - that's why the warning is helpful. --99of9 (talk) 00:00, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
        • Legal person(法人) as defined by Chinese law is in contrast with natural person(自然人), which is what we usually mean by people and where privacy would apply. This ID is exclusively for organizations. The one for natural person already exist as Citizen Identification Number. Again, I can understand the confusion caused by translation, but it is what it is. Viztor (talk) 00:10, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
        • @99of9: BTW, This is probably caused by a bad translation, the proper translation for 法人 should be juridical person instead of legal person. Viztor (talk) 00:15, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
          • Ok, if you make that change (or just simplify the whole phrase to "organizations"), I will not revert. --99of9 (talk) 00:18, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
    • BTW, @笔尖留痕: you seems to have incorrectly label the examples, where did you get the information from? I checked the official registry at China Organization Data Service, and the listed id for Supreme People's Court is incorrect. I will do some other checks later, but where did you get that information for the examples? Viztor (talk) 19:07, 31 May 2019 (UTC)