Wikidata:Property proposal/award declined

award declined

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

Not done

Description	MISSING
Represents	human (Q5), musical group (Q215380), film (Q11424), museum (Q33506), ...
Data type	Item
Example 1	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_have_declined_a_British_honour
Example 2	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_have_declined_or_renounced_Indian_honours_and_decorations
Example 3	Jane Birkin (Q212873)
Example 4	Sophie Marceau (Q162753)
Example 5	David Bowie (Q5383)

Motivation

nominated for (P1411) is kind of similar but not identical.
nomination declined (Q26252351) exists but it is an item and does not seem to be used at all (Query). Sovxx (talk) 10:40, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

As written by Quiddity on award received (P166) talk page :

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Is there any good way to indicate that someone declined or turned down or refused an award?

For example: I was looking at David Bowie (Q5383) and it currently says that he was awarded a "Commander of the Order of the British Empire" and "Order of the British Empire", when in fact he declined those awards per w:en:David Bowie#Awards and recognition and w:en:List of people who have declined a British honour.

The closest I can see is reason for deprecated rank (P2241), but I'm not sure if that is appropriate.

Additionally, I think one of the end-goals would be to remove those awards from displaying at external locations such as https://yago-knowledge.org/graph/yago:David_Bowie and I'm not sure if P2241 would have that effect?

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Discussion

Comment This seems like a good idea but could you be clearer how you think this should be modeled? Would the value of this property by the award? If you could update your examples to show exactly how you think this should work that would be clearer (see other property proposals for how they do examples). ArthurPSmith (talk) 13:53, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support I support the idea, the use case seems clear. But I second ArthurPSmith (talk • contribs • logs); there is a need of improving the style of the proposal and adding formatted examples before it can be created. TiagoLubiana (talk) 21:15, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Sovxx, TiagoLubiana: currently the property does not have valid examples that show which items is supposed to be linked to which. Can you add example to move this proposal forward? ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 14:06, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I think this can be achieved reasonably well with a qualifier as I've done at Q5383#P166. So David Bowie (Q5383) award received (P166) Commander of the Order of the British Empire (Q12201477) qualifier nature of statement (P5102) nomination declined (Q26252351). --99of9 (talk) 00:30, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support, if some public people disagree so strongly with something that they find the strength to decline an award, I think WD should be able to record it. @99of9: I qualifier should not completely reverse the meaning of a statement! You would not say eg "X owns: diamonds; nature of statement: opposite of", right? --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 14:10, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Maxime Ravel (talk) 05:25, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose by 99of9. There's no need for a new property. --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 18:30, 25 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per Vladimir Alexiev. Someone who declines an award was not awarded it. Thryduulf (talk) 03:41, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not done, no consensus of proposed property at this time based on the above discussion. Oppose vote and comments has not been responsed/addressed! Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 06:39, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]