Wikidata:Property proposal/copyright owner
copyright owner edit
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work
| Description | person or organisation who owns the copyright of a work according to the Berne Convention |
|---|---|
| Represents | copyright holder (Q29014674) |
| Data type | Item |
| Domain | creative work (Q17537576) |
| Allowed values | items subclass of (P279) human (Q5), group of humans (Q16334295) |
| Example | |
| Planned use | register who owns the copyright of a work |
| See also | creator (P170), owned by (P127), public domain date (P3893) |
- Motivation
With this property we can describe the copyright owner of a creative work. The copyright owner is the entity that has the copyrights of a building, visual artwork, movie, book or song etc. In some cases the creator is not the copyright owner, for example logos and design created in a company, governmental works, or the copyright was sold. Movies can have many items labeled as creators, but only some of them are seen as having the copyright of that movie. The copyright owner of a work is many times not the owner of a work, so a building or a painting can have an owner, while have another copyright owner. For re-use and licenses like Creative Commons it is important to know who is the copyright owner of a work as only the copyright owner can distribute licenses for re-use. The legal copyright owner in the source country is universally recognised and respected due to the Berne convention. This is important for us as this property doesnt need a qualifier for jurisdiction (for example in Germany it is not possible to transfer copyrights to the employer and other countries respect this). Hannolans (talk) 08:59, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
- Discussion
Support. I was looking for a way to add this to several items only yesterday. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:28, 28 April 2017 (UTC)- Support - we also need something for cases where there is no copyright (some US government works are exempted from copyright laws, or for older works that are in the public domain) - this property with novalue? ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:12, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
- Interesting option. For US governmental works, not sure if those works are public domain in every jurisdiction? And probably we could have a property 'copyright status' where we can write 'public domain' or 'copyright protected' ? This could be a calculated value based on the public domain dates for a work if we have added that for the most restrictive jurisdictions (+95 years, US etc).If a work is excluded from copyright from the start differs in each country (not original enough, governmental work, simple form). If we want to take that into account we could write 'copyright protected/copyright protected with list countries where it is protected as qualifier/public domain/public domain with list of countries where it is public domein as qualifier. --Hannolans (talk) 17:38, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
- Perhaps we could have a "public domain" item as the value? Certainly unknown value will need to be accepted. Thryduulf (talk) 21:20, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
- probably yes, something similar as 'anonymous' for a creator --Hannolans (talk) 22:41, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
- note that currently copyright license (P275) is often used (it is a violation of that property) with the value public domain (Q19652), see for example 2014 State of the Union Address (Q15894506).--Hannolans (talk) 06:47, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
- Perhaps we could have a "public domain" item as the value? Certainly unknown value will need to be accepted. Thryduulf (talk) 21:20, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
- For US government works, "no value" should be used. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:43, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
- Interesting option. For US governmental works, not sure if those works are public domain in every jurisdiction? And probably we could have a property 'copyright status' where we can write 'public domain' or 'copyright protected' ? This could be a calculated value based on the public domain dates for a work if we have added that for the most restrictive jurisdictions (+95 years, US etc).If a work is excluded from copyright from the start differs in each country (not original enough, governmental work, simple form). If we want to take that into account we could write 'copyright protected/copyright protected with list countries where it is protected as qualifier/public domain/public domain with list of countries where it is public domein as qualifier. --Hannolans (talk) 17:38, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
- Support. Thryduulf (talk) 21:20, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
- Support. however, copyright is a national right, the copyright owner can be different per jurisdiction. So a work can have multiple rightsholders. Also a work can have multiple rights, for example a song can have separate right owners for the lyrics and the composition. --Martsniez (talk) 21:58, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
- copyright is a national right, but due to the Berne convention every country has to respect the copyright holder from the source country. The copyright holder can be represented by or licensed by a different organisation per country, but there is only a worldwide recognised legal entity or entities owning a copyright ( within the Berne member countries). A work can have multiple right holders, so this item will get somtimes several copyright holders and with several type of rights depending on the role. we can use a qualifier for the role, but I would say not mandatory. The role (translator, perfomer, producer etc) is also available as the properties within an item --Hannolans (talk) 22:11, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
- Support. This looks like a useful property to have. YULdigitalpreservation (talk) 17:09, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- Great to hear. Can someone create this item? Would like to start with adding information --Hannolans (talk) 20:41, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Hannolans, YULdigitalpreservation, Thryduulf, Martsniez, ArthurPSmith, Pigsonthewing:
Done ChristianKl (talk) 10:40, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
