Wikidata:Property proposal/course rating
Golf course rating edit
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Sports
Not done
| Description | The course rating of a particular course is a number generally between 67 and 77 that is used to measure the average "good score" by a scratch golfer on that course |
|---|---|
| Data type | Number (not available yet) |
| Template parameter | course1 at en:Template:Infobox Golf Facility |
| Domain | golf course |
| Allowed values | number |
| Example | Riviera Country Club (Q7338863) → 75.6 |
| Robot and gadget jobs | probably |
- Motivation
(Add your motivation for this property here.) GZWDer (talk) 09:33, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
- Discussion
Comment probably should be "golf course rating"? Wouldn't want to confuse this with university courses for instance. ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:37, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
- Agreed.--GZWDer (talk) 15:40, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- I changed the name to "Gold course rating". ChristianKl (talk) 12:29, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- Agreed.--GZWDer (talk) 15:40, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Weak oppose with current proposal due to ambiguity. What is the intended determination method (P459) to be used with this property? "scratch rating", "slope rating" and/or something else? Are ratings calculated the same on golf courses around the world? How is the subjective nature of these ratings recorded in Wikidata? (i.e. who and how did an organisation or person decide what the rating would be). Dhx1 (talk) 17:18, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
- @Dhx1: these two ratings only applies to golf courses in US, see en:Handicap_(golf)#Course_rating_and_slope--GZWDer (talk) 13:52, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Oppose The description for par (P3530) is "predetermined number of strokes a 0-handicap golfer should require to complete a hole, a round or a tournament". A "scratch golfer" is a zero-handicap golfer. The GCR sounds more like a qualifier on a P3530 value. The golf course may rate hole 10 as a par 4, but a scratch golfer might average 3.72 strokes on hole 10. The golf course rating is the sum of the average scores; the conventional par is the sum of the quantized average scores. "Golf course rating" also seems a misnomer because it is applied to an entire course; it also makes sense to have scratch golfer averages (GCR) for individual holes. High precision averages for a hole also make sense for ordering hole difficulty. I could also see a slightly different definition of par so we could have qualifiers conventional, average (Course Rating) by scratch golfer, and average (Course Rating) by bogey golfer. The slope rating (P3840) could be discarded because it is a function of the last two qualified pars. That takes the values closer to what they mean. We also need qualification for men and women (may be just a choice of constants) and different color tees (black, white, red). Some resorts also have two different 18-hole courses. Glrx (talk) 03:22, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
Not done lack of support --Pasleim (talk) 16:42, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
