Wikidata:Property proposal/event distance
event distance edit
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Sports
| Description | distance over which a race or other event is conducted or was achieved |
|---|---|
| Data type | Number (not available yet) |
| Template parameter | "distance_laps", "distance_km" and "distance_mi" in en:Template:Infobox Grand Prix race report |
| Domain | |
| Allowed values | positive numbers |
| Allowed units | lap (Q26484625), units of length |
| Example |
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| See also | length (P2043) |
- Motivation
The proposal for a generic "distance" property was withdrawn as commenters did not seem to fully understand the distinction between distance and length, so this is a more clearly purposed proposal for a "race distance" (called "event distance" for things that might not be strictly races, such as hour record (Q766067)). length (P2043) is intended to measure the longest dimension of a 2- or 3-dimensional object, and is different from the concept of distance.
Please review the linked previous discussion before suggesting that located on linear feature (P795) should be used - it is very different and not suitable. Thryduulf (talk) 11:32, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
- Discussion
Support of course. —MisterSynergy (talk) 11:39, 22 August 2016 (UTC) Thanks for proposing, Thryduulf! 
Oppose per my oppose to the previous proposal. The suggestion that I did not understand that is incorrect. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:34, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
- @Pigsonthewing: So maybe this time you can provide examples how to use existing properties (located on linear feature (P795) or any other) for the outlined use cases. I really didn’t get what you said last time, but unfortunately you didn’t reply to my question. Thanks, MisterSynergy (talk) 14:55, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
- I too cannot see how your comments in the previous discussion could work at all, strongly suggesting that you had misunderstood the proposal and/or located on linear feature (P795). Thryduulf (talk) 20:24, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
- I added Wikidata item of this property (P1629) of located on linear feature (P795) as linear referencing (Q1741425). length (P2043) has length (Q36253) and event distance would have travel distance (Q2554326) (see this item for alias names for the new property). -- JakobVoss (talk) 10:20, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
Question would this also be applicable to instances of travel (Q61509) and flight (Q15921555) such circumnavigation of Francis Drake (Q2558706) and Transatlantic flight of Alcock and Brown (Q431538)? Named "event distance" the domain of this property should better be occurrence (Q1190554) or "any event taking place over a course" instead of sporting events only. -- JakobVoss (talk) 12:41, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
- Those are not use cases I had thought of (I said in the previous proposal that I suspected there were non-sporting uses but couldn't think of any). I've got no problem with generalising this but a very generic distance property didn't work out in the last proposal, so I am slightly reluctanct to expand this one too far. That said I think two properties for sporting and non-sporting events is probably overkill so I've changed the domain to "events". Thryduulf (talk) 20:24, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
- Support Now I fully support this property. A good example where it is required is Indianapolis 500 (Q8032) with an event distance of 500 miles and a length of 2.5 miles -- JakobVoss (talk) 09:55, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
- Support this makes sense to me ArthurPSmith (talk) 15:55, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
