Property talk:P1259

Latest comment: 2 years ago by From Hill To Shore in topic Applicability for non-photos

Documentation

coordinates of the point of view
point from which the scene depicted by the element is seen (element can be a photo, a painting, etc.)
DescriptionCoordinates of the point from which the photo was taken / the artwork was made
Data typeGeographic coordinates
Corresponding templateTemplate:Location (Q24702344)
Template parametersee Commons:Template:Camera location
Domain
According to this template: artificial physical object (Q15222213), notably visual artworks (photographs, arguably paintings)
According to statements in the property:
visual artwork (Q4502142)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
ExampleA Sunday Afternoon on the Island of La Grande Jatte (Q1044742)48° 53′ 12.00″ N 2° 16′ 05.00″ E
Boulevard du Temple48° 52′ 07.02″ N 2° 21′ 50.60″ E
Hereford Cathedral Seen from under an Arch of the Wye Bridge52° 02′ 07.00″ N 2° 43′ 08.00″ W
Commons example
See alsolocation of the point of view (P7108), heading (P7787), coordinate location (P625), coordinates of depicted place (P9149)
Lists
Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total4,542
Main statement4,39996.9% of uses
Qualifier1423.1% of uses
Reference1<0.1% of uses
[create Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here]
Type “visual artwork (Q4502142): item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “visual artwork (Q4502142)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1259#Type Q4502142, SPARQL
Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1259#Single value, SPARQL
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1259#allowed qualifiers, SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200), Wikibase MediaInfo (Q59712033): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1259#Entity types
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as qualifier (Q54828449): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1259#Scope, SPARQL
Item “location of creation (P1071): Items with this property should also have “location of creation (P1071)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1259#Item P1071, SPARQL
Item “depicts (P180): Items with this property should also have “depicts (P180)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1259#Item P180, SPARQL
 

Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Applicability for non-photos edit

Actually, using this property for paintings is not perfectly clear, as it could mean both 1) the place from which the subject is depicted 2) the place where the work was painted (for photos, both have to be the same -except postprocessing- but for paintings they can be different). I had in mind meaning 1) when proposing this property, should I change the description to make that more explicit ? --Zolo (talk) 07:44, 26 April 2014 (UTC)Reply

I seems clear to me from the labels that 1) is what is meant. — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 22:58, 30 December 2015 (UTC)Reply
There is also a third aspect. If a photo is taken of a painting of a landscape, there will be the co-ordinates from the camera of where the painting was seen but that could be confused with the co-ordinates of the point of view of the painter in depicting the original scene. To reduce chances of confusion, I have added applies to part (P518) to allowed qualifiers constraint (Q21510851) so more precise statements can be set. This is especially a problem for Commons structured data as bots will create coordinates of the point of view (P1259) based on the camera position and not the depicted scene. See File:La porallée en 1230.jpg as an example.[1] From Hill To Shore (talk) 00:18, 13 February 2022 (UTC)Reply

Mark as prominent edit

Why can the coordinates of the point of view (as well as location of the point of view (P7108)) be marked as prominent? What would be a "not prominent" point or location of view?--Leit (talk) 14:36, 8 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

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