Property talk:P149

Latest comment: 8 years ago by Pasleim in topic Merge with P:P135

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architectural style
architectural style of a structure
Representsarchitectural style (Q32880)
Data typeItem
Domain
According to this template: architectural structure (Q811979)
According to statements in the property:
architectural structure (Q811979), architectural element (Q391414), architectural ensemble (Q1497375), historic district (Q15243209), fictional architectural structure (Q63959448), group of structures or buildings (Q18247357) or human settlement (Q486972)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values
According to this template: art style (Q1792644)
According to statements in the property:
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
ExampleNotre-Dame de Paris (Q2981)French Gothic architecture (Q2245347)
St. Peter's Cathedral (Q471633)Romanesque architecture (Q46261)
Tracking: sameno label (Q55283016)
Tracking: differencesno label (Q55283010)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P149 (Q20117430)
Tracking: local yes, WD nono label (Q55283014)
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Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total160,483
Main statement159,91199.6% of uses
Qualifier5690.4% of uses
Reference3<0.1% of uses
Search for values
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Value type “art style (Q1792644), architectural style (Q32880), architectural typology (Q784969): This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value art style (Q1792644), architectural style (Q32880), architectural typology (Q784969) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P149#Value type Q1792644, Q32880, Q784969, SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200), Wikibase MediaInfo (Q59712033): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P149#Entity types
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as qualifier (Q54828449): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P149#Scope, SPARQL
None of Baroque (Q37853): value must not be any of the specified items.
Replacement property:
Replacement values: baroque architecture (Q840829) (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P149#none of, SPARQL
Contemporaries:
if [item A] has this property (P149) linked to [item B],
then [item A] and [item B] have to coincide or coexist at some point of history.
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P149#Contemporary, SPARQL
 
This property is being used by:

Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Rename edit

Could we also broaden this to use for architects who work predominantly or solely a particular style? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 11:08, 2 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Dangerous mix / des choux et des carottes edit

English: I think that there could be a risk in allowing objects of this property to be a structure or an architect. One day, if we request for all items for which style is Art nouveau, we will get a completely heterogeneous list, that we will have to intersect with other properties another property. I wonder if we should have here 2 distinct properties: has the style and practices the style
Français : Je pense qu'il peut y avoir un risque à mélanger le type des objets possibles pour cette propriété : structure ou architecte. Lorsqu'on va faire des requêtes pour savoir tout ce qui est de style Art Nouveau, on se trouvera avec une liste complètement hétérogène, qu'il faudra intersecter avec une autre propriété, en espérant qu'elle soit bien instanciée pour tous les éléments pour avoir une liste exploitable. Je me demande si nous ne devrions pas avoir ici deux propriétés différentes : est de style et pratique le style.
--Gloumouth1 (talk) 22:07, 7 March 2013 (UTC)Reply

Should not cause a problem, the correct way to query and get the expected results would be to select items with GND = geographical feature and architectural style = Art nouveau.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Danrok (talk • contribs) at 14:47, 19 May 2013 (UTC).Reply
Shuld be, unless P107 (P107) is deprecated and scheduled for deletion. /ℇsquilo 08:22, 28 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Confusion with P31 (instance of) edit

It’s not clear to me whether to use this property (P149) or P31 (instance of) for buildings. I see the phrase “xxx building is an example of yyy architecture” — which to me suggests that I should use 'instance of'.

Also, since most of the architectural styles are in the form “Name architecture”, it feels redundant to say “Architectural style: Neoclassical architecture” (for example).

Any advice would be helpful. —Hawke666 (talk)

instance of (P31) is (ab)used for a lot of claims. A building can have half a dozen of P31's based on use and structural type, let's not put more into it when this property is available. /ℇsquilo 08:26, 28 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Merge with P:P135 edit

I would like to propose to merge this property with movement (P135). The only difference beteween the two properties is that architectural style (P149) is restricted to some classes of items but that does not seem very useful, and in practice, p135 is used for buildings as well anwyway (compare fr:Catégorie:Page utilisant des données de Wikidata/P149‎ and fr:Catégorie:Page utilisant des données de Wikidata/P135). --Zolo (talk) 09:09, 15 January 2015 (UTC)Reply

I have added this property to Wikidata:Properties_for_deletion. --Zolo (talk) 11:26, 1 February 2015 (UTC)Reply
no consensus was reached on Wikidata:Properties for deletion so I closed the discussion. --Pasleim (talk) 10:03, 11 August 2015 (UTC)Reply
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