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audio
relevant sound. If available, use a more specific property. Samples: "spoken text audio" (P989), "pronunciation audio" (P443)
Descriptionrelevant sound. For pronunciation (Q184377), rather use pronunciation audio (P443). See also spoken text audio (P989) and audio recording of the subject's spoken voice (P990). If appropriate, use qualifiers to identify language of work or name (P407) and voice type (P412).
Representsaudio file format (Q682626)
Data typeCommons media file
Domainany item (note: this should be moved to the property statements)
Allowed values(?i).+\.(oga|ogg|mp3|webm|flac|mid|wav|opus)
ExampleAtlantic Puffin (Q26685)Atlantic Puffin (Fratercula arctica) (W1CDR0001416 BD3).ogg
Black and Decker DR601 (Q23775532)Black and Decker DR601 loaded noise.wav
Brandenburg Concerto No.3 (Q223147)Bach - Brandenburg Concerto No. 3 - 1. Allegro.ogg
voiceless palatal plosive (Q19501023)Voiceless palatal plosive.ogg
Formatter URLhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:$1
Embed URLhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:$1
Tracking: sameno label (Q32085211)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P51 (Q20990016)
Tracking: local yes, WD noCategory:Audio not in Wikidata, but available on Wikipedia (Q22685837)
See alsovideo (P10), audio recording of the subject's spoken voice (P990), produced sound (P4733), pronunciation audio (P443), spoken text audio (P989)
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Proposal discussion[not applicable Proposal discussion]
Current uses
Total6,106
Main statement5,91196.8% of uses
Qualifier1863% of uses
Reference90.1% of uses
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Link to Commons namespace “File”: this property should contain a well-formed link to an existing page on Wikimedia Commons. (Help)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P51#Commons link, hourly updated report, SPARQL (new)
 
Format “(?i).+\.(oga|ogg|mp3|webm|flac|mid|wav|opus): value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P51#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
  Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P51#Allowed qualifiers, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
 
Conflicts with “instance of (P31): poem (Q5185279), literary work (Q7725634): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P51#Conflicts with P31, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
 
Conflicts with “instance of (P31): village (Q532), municipality of the Netherlands (Q2039348): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P51#Conflicts with P31, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
 
Conflicts with “coordinate location (P625): this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist.
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Constraint violations/P51#Conflicts with P625, SPARQL, SPARQL (new)
  Pattern ^((?i).+\.(webm|ogv))$ will be automatically replaced to \1 and moved to video (P10) property.
Testing: TODO list

 
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Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Samples and constraints updatedEdit

Following a discussion with @Hsarrazin: on Topic:V8mgkji0bhf932u0, we updated the samples/constraints and moved some values to the various related properties created later. More cleanup is still needed. Constraint reports should detail it. --- Jura 22:02, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Uses on items for people (P31=Q5)Edit

It seems that there are the following uses:

  1. pronunciation of the name of the person:
    this should use pronunciation audio (P443) instead
  2. reading of a Wikipedia article about the person:
    this should use spoken text audio (P989) instead
  3. words pronounced by the person:
    this should use audio recording of the subject's spoken voice (P990) instead
  4. recording of a work by the person (composition, literary work)
  5. recording of the person signing
  6. recording of the person playing an instrument

The last two seem fine. Maybe #4 should go on the item for a notable work. --- Jura 12:23, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Uses on items for placesEdit

It seems that there are the following uses:

  1. pronunciation of the name of the place:
    this should use pronunciation audio (P443) instead
  2. reading of a Wikipedia article about the place:
    this should use spoken text audio (P989) instead

Accordingly, I added constraints that should prevent addition of P51. --- Jura 12:41, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Is this the constraint you added: P51#P51$DC65F8F7-4D24-4BB3-C619-12F6D9246E4D (P51#P51$dc65f8f7-4d24-4bb3-c619-12f6d9246e4d), ie conflicts with coordinate location (P625)? I understand the intention, but this solution creates other problems, eg in the recent 2020 Beirut explosions (Q98073118) item, an industrial disaster that has a location and an audio recording. (The currently included audio recording is a video file, but that could be fixed and is irrelevant to this issue.) In general, there are many locations that have characteristic sounds where use of this property would make sense. Ehn (talk) 03:07, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
Agree. It doesn't work well with statements for church bell recordings either. --- Jura 16:34, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
So what's the best course of action here? Removing or relaxing the constraint? I'm new to Wikidata. :) Ehn (talk) 03:53, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
I relaxed it a bit and added a clarification [1]. I hesistate to remove it entirely: I'm not quite sure how many audio files I had to fix when I wrote the above. 05:12, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
It's still showing a "conflicts-with constraint: An entity should not have statements for both audio and coordinate location." warning/error message on 2020 Beirut explosions (Q98073118). I'm new to Wikidata. Perhaps it's normal not to address such warnings/errors in cases where the intention of the constraint doesn't apply? Ehn (talk) 09:24, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
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