Property talk:P5143

Latest comment: 3 months ago by Samoasambia in topic Occupation constraint

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amateur radio callsign
callsign assigned to licensed Amateur Radio operator, station or satellite
Representsamateur radio call sign (Q455644)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5), amateur radio station (Q455654), amateur radio club (Q11740286), amateur radio satellite (Q455647) or DX-pedition (Q5206574)
Allowed values^[A-Z0-9]{3,7}$
ExampleJames Martel Reneau (Q51763981)N4REN
Imre Ferenczy (Q1000565)HA1UD
Formatter URLhttps://www.qrzcq.com/call/$1
https://qrzcq.com/call/$1
https://amatpres.anfr.fr/annuaire.do?reqCode=filtrer&indicatif=$1
See alsocall sign (P2317)
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Current uses
Total211
Main statement197 out of 12,536 (2% complete)93.4% of uses
Qualifier31.4% of uses
Reference115.2% of uses
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Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5143#Single value, SPARQL
Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5143#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)
Format “^[A-Z0-9]{3,7}$: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5143#Format, SPARQL
Item “instance of (P31): Items with this property should also have “instance of (P31)”. (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5143#Item P31, search, SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5143#Entity types
Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5143#Scope, SPARQL

Occupation constraint edit

Is there a good reason to have an occupation constraint on this field? Amateur radio is by definition (legally and by P31) a "hobby" and while it could be put under occupation, it's not an occupation per se. While a person who has a ham radio callsign will likely have had an occupation at some point in their life, it's not something required to be a ham. Ruthbrarian (talk) 19:45, 26 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Updating to add that as I'm reviewing people who do not have that value added, it seems inappropriate to add "occupation: amateur radio operator" to Hassan II (Q69103), Qaboos bin Said Al Said (Q57331), Walter Cronkite (Q31073), Helen Sharman (Q237473) (who states in the interview I used for her reference that she only used it while aboard Mir), Priscilla Presley (Q234773), etc. In many cases it's an interesting data point about a person who's noteworthy for other things but not a significant enough part of their life to seem to merit an "occupation" statement. Ruthbrarian (talk)

@Ruthbrarian: I agree completely. If someone wants to show that a person's hobby is amateur radio, you could add a stament Samantha Cristoforetti (Q379039)interested in (P2650)amateur radio (Q185727)object has role (P3831)hobby (Q47728). In addition, this property should be used in items about DX-pedition (Q5206574), amateur radio club (Q11740286), amateur radio satellite (Q455647) and amateur radio station (Q455654), where having occupation (P106) does not even make sense since they are not human. I will make these changes to the constraints soon if no one opposes. –Samoasambia 20:44, 19 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Single-value constraint edit

I wouldn't consider it exceptionally rare that people have more than one callsign during their lifetime, or even simultaneously, for various reasons. They may have alternating residence in different countries, or emigrate altogether. Participants of DXpeditions get temporary (sometimes personal) callsigns at their destination. At the annual (except for epidemic years …) "Ham Radio" fair in Friedrichshafen at Lake Constance, regularly an opportunity is offered to take the test for a USA-based license (with correspondig callsign) to European hams additionally to their existing ones. In Germany, if you upgrade your license from basic to advanced level, your callsign has to change from DO* to something else. Even if you do nothing of the above, the systematics of callsigns where you live may change (in the de-WP there is a long article about the history of amateur radio callsigns in Germany), requiring operators to get new ones. --DK2EO (talk) 17:10, 23 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

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