Talk:Q3244512

instance of = fictional human

My edit got reverted by Infovarius also removing what was added as a reference, imported from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Harry_Potter_(character)&oldid=882056520#Harry_Potter_and_the_Order_of_the_Phoenix

I quote from that reference that was added but from that notice the author is stating "[Harry is] a very human hero, and this is, obviously, a contrast, between him, as a very human hero, and Voldemort, who has deliberately dehumanised himself": (also here's reference 11)

Rowling says she put Harry through extreme emotional stress to show his emotional vulnerability and humanity—a contrast to his nemesis, Voldemort. 
"[Harry is] a very human hero, and this is, obviously, a contrast, between him, as a very human hero, and Voldemort, who has deliberately dehumanised himself. And Harry, therefore, did have to reach a point where he did almost break down, and say he didn't want to play any more, he didn't want to be the hero any more – and he'd lost too much. And he didn't want to lose anything else. So that – Phoenix was the point at which I decided he would have his breakdown."[11]

Harry Potter is a human as far as I know. Please join the discussion if you disagree, I mean even the author of the books agree that he is. "[Harry is] a very human hero, and this is, obviously, a contrast, between him, as a very human hero, and Voldemort, who has deliberately dehumanised himself"

• instance of = fictional human

Btqfshfst (talk) 17:01, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

I stated it already at the Project Chat but it won't hurt to have it also at this place: I suppose that this statement was removed because it is redundant: wizard in the Harry Potter universe (Q15298259) is a subclass of fictional human (Q15632617) so that Harry Potter is a human is already implied by the statement instance of (P31): wizard in the Harry Potter universe (Q15298259). - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 20:07, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

@Btqfshfst: yes, I removed it because it is redundant and subclass of it is already present. --Infovarius (talk) 13:59, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Death should be added or not?

There was a discussion and some edit war. If anyone has additional arguments, you are welcome. --Infovarius (talk) 08:55, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

@Infovarius, Skorp24: one could also use significant event (P793) as in the statement below, but I have no idea how to express that Lord Voldemort was responsible for the event. I think there is no property that covers such a relation, yet.

significant event	clinical death (there is also near death experience) edit point in time 2 May 1998 location Hogwarts grounds has cause homicide has immediate cause Avada Kedavra ??? Lord Voldemort 0 references add reference
		add value

- Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 10:16, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

• I agree with the offer. I think, if we can't specify own property name as a text, killer property may be ignored. --SkоrP²⁴ 11:34, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

• At least we can use significant person (P3342). Ok, let's go with this model for a while. --Infovarius (talk) 10:36, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Done. But apparently we can not add significant person as a qualifier. --SkоrP²⁴ 04:55, 8 July 2019 (UTC)