Talk:Q937

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Dates about country of citizenship (P27)

I took the exact dates from einstein-website.de there are some more. If there is the possebility to add urls as sources this should be added. --Sk!d (talk) 22:12, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

BNF and WKP AC parameters

• http://viaf.org/viaf/75121530/#Einstein,_Albert,_1879-1955
• http://viaf.org/viaf/46409037/#Einstein,_Albert,_1879-1955_%28Spirit%29

Place of burial P119

Currently the value of P119 is: "Princeton" (imported from Polish Wikipedia).

But in the English Wikipedia I found this information:

"Einstein's remains were cremated and his ashes were scattered at an undisclosed location." -- References:

• O'Connor, J.J.; Robertson, E.F. (1997), "Albert Einstein", The MacTutor History of Mathematics archive, School of Mathematics and Statistics, University of St. Andrews
• Late City, ed. (18 April 1955). Written at Princeton, NJ. "Dr. Albert Einstein Dies in Sleep at 76; World Mourns Loss of Great Scientist, Rupture of Aorta Causes Death, Body Cremated, Memorial Here Set". The New York Times CIV (35,514) (New York, NY, published 19 April 1955). p. 1. ISSN 0362-4331.

Could you please correct P119?

Karmela (talk) 21:06, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

I removed the incorrect statement that he was buried at Princeton. We don't seem to have a model yet for stating "ashes scattered". --WiseWoman (talk) 19:22, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

Professions

There was an inflation of ocupations - I had to correct. He was not astronomer, even he contributed to astronomy, is no need to repeat twice physicist and theretician physicist, etc etc He was not ethnic German American, but became Jewish American, of course was a German Jew.Ewan2 (talk) 01:14, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Archives at

I suggest to add the two following institutions to the "archives at" statement:

• Hebrew University of Jerusalem (Q174158), reference: reference URL: http://www.albert-einstein.org/
• ETH Zurich University Archives (Q39934978), reference: reference URL: http://archivdatenbank-online.ethz.ch/hsa/#/search?q=118529579

Wikipedia entries

To be added: https://rm.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein Courriel12 (talk) 20:10, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Done. Montgomery (talk) 12:18, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Professor

The claim

⟨ subject ⟩ occupation (P106) ⟨ professor (Q121594)    ⟩

is wrong because "professor" is not an occupation: it is either position or academic degree (in this case correct value is Q25339110). --Infovarius (talk) 16:06, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Using Wikipedia as reference ?

Hello,

Wikipedia pages regularly change and anyone can change any content without showing any credentials. While the English Wikipedia is very good, this is not the case for many, many Wikipedias in other languages.

An example of something wrong with using Wikipedia as a reference in Q937 ? Someone wrote in the korean wikipedia that Albert Einstein was part of the Manhattant project ; that was never the case. But that wrong info was imported in Q937 :-(.

Each Wikipedia explicitly tells that it should not be used as a reference ; see for instance w:fr:Wikipédia:Avertissements généraux on the French Wikipedia and w:en:Wikipedia:General disclaimer on the English Wikipedia. The second tells : "Wikipedia cannot guarantee the validity of the information found here", just like any other encyclopedia.

user:Jura1 decided that I was wrong to remove Wikipedia entries as references from Q937. I think he should be more critical of using Wikipedia as a reference in Wikidata, because the English Wikipedia is one among many.

Cantons-de-l'Est (talk) 13:30, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

@Cantons-de-l'Est The goal of putting Wikipedia as reference is not to serve as a real reference but just and solely to document where the information was imported from. This is to, when a mistake is imported from a Wikipedia, correct the article to avoid the mistake to be imported again later. author  TomT0m / talk page 13:34, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

TomT0m, Why is "imported from" under the section "references" ? Cantons-de-l'Est (talk) 13:38, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

user:Jura1 and TomT0m, Here is what I fond in Help:Sources : "Please note that while pages on Wikipedia (and other Wikimedia sites) should and can be added as sitelinks, they are not appropriate as sources for Wikidata statements. As per the Wikipedia policy on verifiability, the content of articles in Wikipedia must be verifiable; it should be supported by sources also (in the form of citations). However, just because something is stated on a Wikipedia page, does not mean that it is acceptable to consider the Wikipedia page itself as a source; it's much better to locate the actual citation and use that instead." So, the Wikidata community tells the same thing as I do : don't use Wikipedia as a reference. Cantons-de-l'Est (talk) 13:52, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

@Cantons-de-l'Est Of course if you can extract the original source the ultimate goal is to do it … but this will not stop automated imports from Wikipedias, which are useful sometimes. And automated extraction of source is far from trivial, so in practice it’s not done.

And when it occurs it’s better to maintain a link to where it was imported than nothing. It’s not just to be considered as a « real » source. A side effect is that it can highlight a mistake in a Wikipedia article and reported to the right community. author  TomT0m / talk page 13:56, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

@Cantons-de-l'Est Because it would fit worse anywhere else I guess. It would not fit as a qualifier at all. author  TomT0m / talk page 13:53, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Official website?

Why does Albert Einstein have an "official website"? Please remove, unless there is a good justification. -Jähmefyysikko (talk) 10:15, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Presedent of Deutsche Physikalische Gesellschaft

In the statemant

employer (P108)Deutsche Physikalische Gesellschaft (Q819187)start time (P580)1916/end time (P582)1918/position held (P39)president (Q30461)

that the qualifier president (Q30461) represents a politician/leader of a country. Since Deutsche Physikalische Gesellschaft (Q819187) was a organization, the qualifier might be a president (Q1255921) or chairperson (Q140686). tntchn ^{Comment · Contribs} 03:01, 5 October 2022 (UTC)