User:Succu/Archive/2021

Range map

Happy New Year!

Can you check Caspian cobra (Q2349137) with taxon range map image (P181). Do we have already some property for geographic range distribution? Is it ok to use country (P17) for this in that way? --Termininja (talk) 07:29, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Unfortunately we don't have a property to describe the geographic range distribution of taxa. In my opinion country (P17) shouldn't be used. I doubt File:South_West_Asia_location-Naja-oxiana.svg is based on the geographic range you referenced. Note the warning Distribution data is not mapped for this species. --Succu (talk) 21:10, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

Merge?

https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q1549723&oldid=prev&diff=1090388882

Ahoj, proč jsi revertoval toto sloučení?

--Rosičák (talk) 10:23, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

No, we have to keep different names at different items. Your merge caused this „correction“. --Succu (talk) 11:55, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Dobrá, nechám to plavat, ale myslím, že to není dobře.- 6.1.2020 Rosičák

Apologize

Hello Succu, sorry for this, I was testing out Wikidata Usefuls and forgot to check out if it actually worked. A big apologize, thank you for repairing the damage. --GeXeS (talk) 13:43, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Revert on Cattle

Hi Succu, I noticed you reverted my edit to cattle, adding that the species is a source of gelatin. Could you explain why you reverted? Thanks, I'm new to editing WikiData (but not Wikimedia project generally). Scientific29 (talk) 04:31, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi, just pinging again here. Thank you Scientific29 (talk) 06:57, 7 March 2020 (UTC).

I doubt that statement is true. --Succu (talk) 10:59, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Gotcha, it is indeed, here are two sources linked in the Wikipedia article 1 ("There are a large number of unit processes used in the manufacture of gelatin and the raw materials from which it is derived are demineralised bone (called ossein), pigskin, cow hide") and 2 ("The principal raw materials used in gelatin production are cattle bones, cattle hides, and porkskins.") Cheers! Scientific29 (talk) 21:30, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi Succu, I saw you reverted my edits to gelatin again. Could you explain in light of these citations? Thank you Scientific29 (talk) 02:35, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi Succu, checking in again here. As I said, this statement is clearly true and supported by references. If I don't hear back from you, I'll revert my edits one more time and then move further discussion to project chat to try to get some third party perspective here. Thank you. Scientific29 (talk) 23:17, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Dear single-purpose account, would you claim Homo sapiens (Q15978631) or human (Q5) this taxon is source of (P1672) wig (Q105507)? --Succu (talk) 17:32, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

I'll reach out over there in hopes of proceeding productively. I'm not sure if you're implying that this should be linked from Bos taurus (Q20747334) or maybe an intermediate product like cowhide (Q12492880) or something else altogether. For what it's worth, I've been editing under this username on Wikipedia for a decade, so this clearly isn't a single purpose account. Happy editing. Scientific29 (talk) 21:25, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Tyrannosaurus and others

Wikidata should serve Wikipedia. Q14332 and Q13098211 they now absolutely absurdly divide interwikis. Genus Tyrannosaurus has one species: Tyrannosaurus rex. From a taxonomic point of view, calmly divide it but it is not possible to divide articles according to whether the Wikipedia chooses a generic or species name. In its current form, a Czech or German Wikipedia reader does not get an article on English or Slovak Wikipedia. Those articles are about the same thing! Dozens of Wikipedia mutations will not adapt to one project. Please add a some merge-parameter to these items, in its present form, you are harming the readers. Common sense must prevail over the machine solution. OJJ (talk) 13:09, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Why are you telling me this? I did not caused the current distribution of the sitelinks. --Succu (talk) 16:45, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

ex authors

Why is the labeling backwards on this property? When a source is cited as "R.M.Schust. ex T.Katag. & A.Hagborg", the "ex" applies to the authors listed after the ex. The "ex" does not mean "former", and it is not English. The Latin "ex" means "within", referring to the publication within which the attribution was made. To call the leading author an "ex author" is grammatical nonsense; the publication was not made within his work, it was made in the work identified by the authors following the Latin preposition. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:42, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Ask Tropicos why they handle it this way. --Succu (talk) 05:51, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

So you're happy to go against the Code (VI 46.2) as long as we're aping some other source? I suppose they're working around VI 46.7, but this is a backwards way to handle it. --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:21, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Schiffornithinae

Why did you revert my edition in Schiffornithinae (Q21978054)? Schiffornithinae is a junior synonym of Ptilochlorinae as stated in Polish list of birds of the world here. Pikador (talk) 06:30, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

We do not merge synonyms. If you want to model the relationship please use taxon synonym (P1420). --Succu (talk) 08:57, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Q290805

Hi, why did you cancel https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q290805&diff=prev&oldid=1118377947? It is a subfamily (the common name of Orthocoronavirinae and not a genus. Have a look at the ICTV documentation) and not a genus. Ronam20 (talk) 10:27, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

Coronavirus (Q290805) is about the genus Coronavirus abolished in 2009. You changed a reference property. The item for the subfamily is Coronavirus (Q57751738). Maybe you have to move sitelinks to Coronavirus (Q57751738). --Succu (talk) 11:27, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

I see. thank you for the correction. Ronam20 (talk) 17:07, 19 February 2020 (UTC)

World Spider Catalog ids

The World Spider Catalog ids are for taxa, not taxon names. SuccuBot has been re-adding WSC ids for Brachypelma synonyms that are now in Tliltocatl, e.g. Brachypelma kahlenbergi (Q2683958), which produces error messages, since the ids are already in use for the Tliltocatl species, e.g. Tliltocatl kahlenbergi (Q86826827). I don't care whether the same WSC ids are used for synonymous taxon names, but if so, there should not be a uniqueness requirement as there is now. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:35, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for catching this. The bot run used a slightly outdated data export from WSC dated 2020-02-26. The species was transferred to the new genus a day later (see edit history). --Succu (talk) 18:26, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Thanks for the explanation. Peter coxhead (talk) 23:06, 5 March 2020 (UTC)

Pollinators

Hi Succu. So Cape short-eared gerbil (Q127360) and Hairy-footed gerbil (Q306591) are both pollinators of Massonia depressa (Q3297798) according to Rodent pollination in the African lily Massonia depressa (Hyacinthaceae). (Q42732391) ([1]). I assume it just looked odd because gerbils are not usually pollinators. Thanks, gobonobo ^{+ c} 20:28, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Gobonobo! I reverted myself already. The German label was somewhat misleading. --Succu (talk) 20:33, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

Extant turtle

Chelonoidis nigra nigra (Q486672) with IUCN conservation status (P141) = extinct species (Q237350). Please fix that. Also the source is broken --Termininja (talk) 19:03, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Ah, I saw your edition and I thought that it is your bot, but not, it was my mistake.. Thanks. --Termininja (talk) 19:22, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Indeed. And you never fixed this kind of errors. --Succu (talk) 19:24, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Actually not, this is correct work of my bot, im trying to find now why the status is still "extinct species" - this is actually the real problem --Termininja (talk) 19:29, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Do you remember this hint? A simple SPARQL query should give you the problematic edits. --Succu (talk) 19:37, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Virus strains and species

Hello Succu,

I saw that you removed many of the edits I made. I agree, they might be not strains, but species (or something else).

I changed the class name to "virus taxon", as a subclass of taxon. I am trying to enhance the data model for virus strains and species. Your contribution at Wikidata:WikiProject_COVID-19/Data_models/Virus_strains would be super valuable.

In the meantime, can I ask you to leave the items as instance of (P31) of virus taxon (Q87756246)? It seems logic and is useful for automating searches and improving the model.

virus taxon (Q87756246) is a subclass of (P279) of taxon.

Thanks; TiagoLubiana (talk) 20:11, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi! We do not have "plant taxon" or "animal taxon". If you want to know to which higher taxon a taxon belogs simply follow parent taxon (P171) or use code of nomenclature (P944). Regards --Succu (talk) 20:16, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

2020 IRMNG release now available as data dump

Hi Succu, just letting you know that there is (again) a new release of IRMNG (genera) now available as detailed at http://www.irmng.org/download.php (the actual data files are at http://www.irmng.org/export/) - hoping that this is still of interest to you with regard to your wikidata activities.

BTW, the odd IRMNG ID gets deprecated as duplicates are discovered or some higher categories are decided to be redundant. The data file does not contain these although they would be discoverable via a comparison between the current data file and the previous one (and ones before that, and ones before that...). I have occasionally thought that there might be a value in a separate list of deprecated IDs and what they were used for, but only if there is need for it - any thoughts?

Cheers and best wishes - Tony Rees Tony 1212 (talk) 02:25, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Thanks

I'm new to Wikipedia, so please forgive my mistakes. I'm learning as I go along. I uploaded some a few images and I wasn't sure how wikidata works. I'm not vandalizing anything, I'm trying to improve some of the the cobra articles. I'm especially focusing on the Naja article itself as it's fraught with inaccuracies and the list of 10 most venomous cobra species is inaccurate. Apologies if it appeared as though I was vandalizing anything. I'm still learning. Pincotti4 (talk) 19:09, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Broken interwiki

Hi. With this reverting you broke interwiki between Ukrainian and Netherlands Wikipedia articles. As far as I can see from your contributions you are not going to repair what you have done, aren't you? I beleive it is not a good practice.--Brunei (talk) 19:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Please don't guess. The system is somewhat lame at the moment, but fixed. Please do not merge items with different taxon name (P225). Move the sitelink instead. Thx. --Succu (talk) 19:13, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Are you going to save all synonims on WikiData?--Brunei (talk) 19:16, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Yes. This is how WD works (structured data). --Succu (talk) 19:26, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

For Bot: Virus Taxonomy: 2019 Release

Important news: ICTV Master Species List 2019.v1 (Q91806681). --VladXe (talk) 20:30, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

@VladXe: The bot is running. --Succu (talk) 12:50, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Where are the elements of the new kingdoms, types, classes, and orders? For example: Heunggongvirae, Artverviricota, Papovaviricetes, Zurhausenvirales --VladXe (talk) 07:56, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

!!! No taxon: Amabiliviricetes, Vidaverviricetes, Resentoviricetes, Wolframvirales, Mindivirales, Mitoviridae, Mayoviridae, Sinhaliviridae; Asfuvirales, Chitovirales, Reovirales, +? --VladXe (talk) 16:38, 27 April 2020 (UTC) --VladXe (talk) 19:03, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Sorry, the bot is still working. --VladXe (talk) 16:43, 27 April 2020 (UTC) --VladXe (talk) 19:03, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry VladXe: Due to hardware issues I'm switching to a new system. And this in the middle of restructuring my bots code... -- Succu (talk) 20:01, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

RU: Это уважительная причина. Сообщите, пожалуйста, когда можно будет привязать страницы русской Википедии к указанным выше элементам Викиданных. EN, online translation: This is a good reason. Please let us know when you can link Russian Wikipedia pages to the Wikidata elements listed above. --VladXe (talk) 06:42, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

VladXe: I think all new itemd should be created by now. --Succu (talk) 12:10, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Ahlbergia ferrea

Hi, could you explain your reasoning behind splitting Ahlbergia ferrea and Callophrys ferrea? Most sources seem to claim that they are one and the same species. On Wikispecies, the latter redirects to the former. Ellpicre (talk) 17:12, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

We do not merge items with different taxon name (P225). We have to keep them because of structural reasons (note Lycaena ferrea (Q25351077)). Please move sitelinks instead. --Succu (talk) 17:39, 19 May 2020 (UTC)