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Best regards! Revi^Discuss_{SUL Info} 09:12, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Translation request

Hello.

Can you translate and upload simple:National Archive Department of Azerbaijan and « Category:Archives in Azerbaijan » (Q22029602) (e.g. like tr:Kategori:Rusya'daki arşivler) in Turkish Wikipedia for this article and for tr:Azerbaycan Millî Kütüphanesi (which is the national archive repository)?

Yours sincerely, Matricatria (talk) 11:23, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello @Matricatria: It's done. Best regards.--BSRF ^💬 13:55, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Matricatria (talk) 14:05, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello.

If you are interested and have the time, can you translate and upload en:Azerbaijan State University of Economics in Turkish Wikipedia? The article certainly doesn't need to be long. This is my second and last request for this year.

Yours sincerely, Matricatria (talk) 14:19, 8 December 2019 (UTC)

Turkish administrative subdivisions

Hi BSRF! I'm writing to you because I say your rollback on my edit and I noticed that you are a Turkish editor, so I think you can help us to understand better how Turkish administrative subdivisions works (with "us" I mean it.wiki community, because we have a discussion ongoing).

I neither speak or understand Turkish, but I have found these two pages in English run by "Union of Municipalities of Turkey" and I have understood the following:

1. In origin, there were 81 provinces. Metropolitan municipalities were created to substituted provinces in some cases. So, as of 2014, we have two distinct type of first-level subdivisions: 51 provinces and 30 metropolitan municipalities. The area covered by a metropolitan municipality is exactly the same previous covered by the province. (Quoting from the website above: In 2014 however, the special provincial administration was abolished in 30 provinces where the metropolitan municipality status was accorded, and its functions were transferred to metropolitan municipalities. Today, special provincial administrations continue to discharge the said functions in 51 provinces, operating in a sense as municipalities for rural areas.)
2. The hierarchy of the subdivisions is the following:
   • Metropolitan municipalities (büyükşehir belediyesi) --> a total of 30
     • Metropolitan districts (büyükşehir ilçe belediyesi, or simply ilçe) --> a total of 519
   • Provinces (il) --> a total of 51
     • Provincial municipalities (il belediyesi) --> a total of 51 (they are the administrative centres of the provinces)
     • Districts (ilçe belediyesi, or simply ilçe) --> a total of 400
     • Towns (belde belediyesi, or simply belde) --> a total of 396
3. So, for example, İzmit (Q129649) is a metropolitan district, part of the metropolitan municipality Kocaeli (Q3816083) and Nilüfer (Q2183942) is a metropolitan district, part of the metropolitan municipality Bursa Metropolitan Municipality (Q28528543). Viceversa, Adıyaman (Q168197) is a district and the administrative center of the province Adıyaman Province (Q43924) and Besni (Q816753) is another district in the same province. This means also that it makes no sense having two different pages for Besni (Q816753) and Besni (Q2411923), because they are the same thing: administratively a district and practically a city.

Does this make sense to you or is it wrong? If the latter, may you explain me (and us) exactly where?

Thanks in advance. --BohemianRhapsody (talk) 15:11, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi @BohemianRhapsody:. First of all I hope you are fine and not affected by the coronavirus pandemic. Executive branch of the Republic of Turkey is divided into two: Central administration, and local administration.

• Central administration is divided into two: Central organization (which includes the president, cabinet ministers, etc.), and Provincial organization (which includes provinces, and districts)
• Local administration is divided into two: Local administration in terms of location (which includes special provincial administrations, metropolitan municipalities, provincial municipalities, etc.), and Local administration in terms of services (which includes universities, bar associations, etc).

As you can see, provinces and metropolitan municipalities are in different branches.

Metropolitan municipalities were first created in Istanbul, Ankara, and İzmir in 1984. Gradually the number rose to 30. Please see this map. At the beginning, their area of responsibility were limited. In 2004, metropolitan municipalities in Istanbul, and Kocaeli became responsible for the whole province. In 2014, 14 new metropolitan municipalities were established and the remaining 28 (14 old, 14 new) metropolitan municipalities became coterminous with their respective provinces (like Istanbul, and Kocaeli).

Turkey has 81 provinces (il) as first-level subdivision. Please note that there aren't two types of first-level subdivision. You can't say "we have two distinct type of first-level subdivisions: 51 provinces and 30 metropolitan municipalities". Metropolitan municipalities are just public organizations with legal personalities. Their responsibilites are defined by law and limited. I've read the part you've quoted. Special provincial administration, which is responsible for rural areas of a province, was abolished in 30 provinces where there are metropolitan municipalities. Because since 2014, metropolitan municipalities are responsible for both urban and rural areas of a province. There is one more difference. There are no villages (köy) or towns (belde) in provinces with metropolitan municipalities since 2014. They are now called neighbourhoods (mahalle). 30 provinces have a two-tier municipal system and 51 provinces have a single-tier municipal system.

Turkey has 973 districts (ilçe) as second-level subdivision. 519 districts are located in provinces with metropolitan municipalities. There are 51 provincial centers (which are also districts with minor differences) and 403 districts in 51 provinces which don't have a metropolitan municipality.[1]

Every province has a governorship (valilik). A governor (vali) who is appointed by the president of Turkey is the head of the governorship. Governorship is the highest office in a province. Metropolitan mayors (büyükşehir belediye başkanı) are different than governors. Only 30 provinces have metropolitan municipalities and metropolitan mayors.

Every district has a district governorship (kaymakamlık) and district municipality (ilçe belediyesi). District governors (kaymakam) and district mayors (ilçe belediye başkanı) are the heads of offices. Note that provincial centers don't have district governorships. Provincial governors are responsible for provincial centers in 51 provinces.

The hierarchy of the subdivisions is the following:

• Provinces (81)
  • Districts (973)
    • Villages/köy (rural), neighbourhoods/mahalle (urban), towns/belde (semi-rural) in 51 provinces
    • Neighbourhoods/mahalle in 30 provinces

Your first example is a bit complicated one. İzmit (Q129649) is a district of Kocaeli Province (Q83965) since 2014. It is located in the city center but in legal context, it is not different than Darıca (Q986398) which is located far from the center. The city was named İzmit before 2014. Now the city is known as Kocaeli. The province is also called Kocaeli. Kocaeli Metropolitan Municipality (Kocaeli (Q3816083)) is just an organization, not an administrative division. It's area of responsibility covers the whole province. All districts of the province are metropolitan districts.

Your example about Adıyaman is correct. In my opinion, one article for Besni is enough. As far as I know, only itwiki, nlwiki, and cebwiki have two different articles for districts/cities. Trwiki and enwiki even have one article for Istanbul (city) and Istanbul (province) for example. If you have more questions, feel free to ask. Best regards!--BSRF ^💬 20:05, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Have you time to help document coal-fired power stations in Turkey?

Hello - thanks for your edits on İzdemir power station (Q97642134). I am trying to document all the coal-fired power stations in Turkey. Would you be interested and have time to help with getting the Wikidata into Vikipedi? Chidgk1 (talk) 15:22, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

@Chidgk1: Hello. Nowadays I don't have much time. But I can create articles about those power stations on trwiki in the near future. Best regards.--BSRF ^💬 15:41, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Creating Turkish articles would be very useful but I wonder as a very experienced Wikipedian whether you have the skill to amend a template with the help of the video and slides at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Celtic_Knot_Conference_2020/Submissions/Wikidata-powered_infoboxes? That might be more interesting for you than simply creating articles? On English Wikpedia the power station infobox can bring in data from Wikidata but the one on Turkish Wiklipedia cannot. For example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemerk%C3%B6y_power_station picks up the Wikidata but https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemerk%C3%B6y_Termik_Santrali does not. Surprisingly the article has also been translated into Norwegian at https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kemerk%C3%B6y_kullkraftverk The English infobox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_power_station is rather complicated but if you look at the Norwegian https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mal:Infoboks_kraftverk it seems that it would be straightforward for you to make a Turkish one like that? I cannot do it myself because there is no way the admins on Vikipedi will allow me to test infobox changes after I rubbed them up the wrong way in the past. And they are almost certainly correct that I do not have sufficient Turkish language. By the way what is Turkish for "I rubbed them up the wrong way"? Chidgk1 (talk) 06:02, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

@Chidgk1: I don't have the technical skills to incorporate data from Wikidata into infoboxes on trwiki. You can test your edits on your sandbox on trwiki. Or you could just ask for help here. "I rubbed them up the wrong way" is an idiom so its direct translation into Turkish would be meaningless. It can be translated as "kızdırmak", "sinirlendirmek", "öfkelendirmek" (to annoy, to anger, etc.).--BSRF ^💬 11:44, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Ah thanks I did not know about that template request page. I have asked here.

Problem with regions!

Hello. I would like to know, why do you remove all the changes I do in the subdivisions of Turkey in Wikidata. Please, stop doing it, without giving a valid reason! I put the statistical subregion of statistical region at the located at line, because, even if it's not an administrative division, it must be within a statistical region. And then, it is also located in the geographical region, so is part of. But you cannot put statistical and geographical regions together!!!--Medograd (talk) 18:48, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Medograd:. w:NUTS statistical regions of Turkey are statistical territorial entities. They do not have administrative functions. So please refrain from using Property:P131. You should use Property:P361 instead. Thanks.--BSRF ^💬 18:53, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

@BSRF: There's a problem with this 2 items. I use Catalan Wikipedia, and is strictly linked to Wikidata, so if I use the Property:P361 for statistic region, it puts me authomatically to geographic region. But if I use the Property:P131, it puts the statistic region as administrative. The conflict is that you cannot have statistic and geographic region together, because they are not the same, and should be in different properties. So I ask you, what should be the solution?--Medograd (talk) 18:59, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

@Medograd: The "problem" you talk about should be solved on the Catalan Wikipedia. Maybe you or another user can edit Plantilla:Infotaula geografia política and make it aligned with Wikidata properties. But it's not Wikidata's "problem" and it doesn't justify your wrong edits.--BSRF ^💬 19:14, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi, BSRF, In addition to agree with your answer to Medograd about incorrect use of P131 for statistical regions, could you tell me where it was defined or decided to use P361, instead? This property is too generic and editors can misuse it. If you can show me the specific definition done for geographic subclasses, it can help me to act correctly in the infobox. Thanks, Amadalvarez (talk) 05:49, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi Amadalvarez. Property:P361 is the parent property. You can read its usage notes here. Yes, it's generic but in our case, it's better than Property:P131. By the way, I've come across with Property:P8138. Maybe you can incorporate it into the infobox on cawiki and Medograd can use it on Wikidata.--BSRF ^💬 06:17, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your fast answer. I rather to use P8183 than P361, because it fits perfectly. I did not known it, but I'll incorporate in infobox. Salut ! Amadalvarez (talk) 08:28, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Done ! Thanks, again. Amadalvarez (talk) 08:49, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi! So, for geographical regions we use Property:P361, and for statistical regions we use Property:P8138? - --Medograd (talk) 06:53, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi Medograd. I think we can.--BSRF ^💬 08:18, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Karşıyaka item

Hi BRSF, what is actually wrong with my picture? I mean, it shows Karşıyaka skyline (along with the monument). The other one shows two ugly buildings, and has quality problems. --A.Savin (talk) 14:42, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi A.Savin. I really appreciate your contributions. But in Karşıyaka case, I disagree with you. Your image does not represent Karşıyaka well. The skyline behind the monument depicts Bayraklı district. The other image depicts the main shopping street of Karşıyaka which is a better known symbol of the district.--BSRF ^💬 14:53, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Understand. Thanks --A.Savin (talk) 17:59, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

Cities with millions of inhabitants

Hi, this is not really useful. One day, someone decided to add million city (Q1637706) to a lot of items, and it has remained there since then, but the proper way to add population data is point in time (P585). Addding it to instance of (P31) is much less precise and usable, and it makes p31 tricker to deal with. I have mentioned this issue a few times, including on talk:Q1637706 and there seems to be some consensus around that. --Zolo (talk) 13:01, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Zolo. I disagree with you. I've stated my opinion on the talk page of the item. There is no consensus on removing it as you've been doing.--BSRF ^💬 14:38, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

Keep building complex and hotel separated

Please keep the items separated as they describe a different concept Q111515937 and Q3359202 Germartin1 (talk) 04:59, 8 April 2022 (UTC) Germartin1, Q3359202 should be about the building as all wikipedia articles are about the building.--BSRF ^💬 05:22, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

The Turkish article focuses on the hotel and not the building Germartin1 (talk) 05:23, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

I'm the one who wrote the article on Turkish Wikipedia. And it's mainly about the building.--BSRF ^💬 05:24, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

About a User

Hi, I saw your undo revision in İstanbul article. I need help about Naak11, I can’t handle with him. He changes many article perseveringly like Erdoğan, Valérien Ismaël, Mansur Yavaş, İstanbul... For example Valérien Ismaël hasn't any tie with Africa but he changed his page as African coach, je changes Erdoğan page as politician from Rize and Georgian. Also Mansur Yavaş isn't diplomat, he changes Mansur Yavaş as diplomat. I warned him but he doesn't care, I wrote a message administrator notice but they didn't reply. Help please, I can’t handle with him. I'm from Turkey too and I wanted to write about this topic to a Turkish user Aguilanegro (talk) 18:29, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Kulüp dizisi maddesi

Merhaba, Kulüp dizisi üzerine yaptığınız çalışmaları gördüm, elinize sağlık! 2. sezon da çıktığı için bazı eklemeler yapıyorum, önerilerinize açığım. Egezort (talk) 21:33, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Merhaba Egezort. Sizin de elinize sağlık. Sizin eklemelerinizin üzerine eklenecek pek bir şey aklıma gelmedi. Bir tek senarist bilgisi eksikti onu ekledim. İyi günler dilerim.--BSRF ^💬 04:02, 11 October 2023 (UTC)