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Best regards! --VIGNERON (talk) 11:10, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Q66516308

User:Estopedist1 Because it's already exists in Q111797619. Dbult (talk) 12:48, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

thanks for the answer. In such cases we merge them.  Merged Estopedist1 (talk) 14:27, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Emptying items?

when managing Special:ShortPages, I can find five items (Q66569443, Q66569441, Q66569444, Q66543082, Q66505653), which you emptied. Should we delete them? If deleting then unique Foundational Model of Anatomy ID (P1402) are lost. Is it OK? Estopedist1 (talk) 11:33, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Yes, I should have merged them instead. Now I do that rather than erase them. Dbult (talk) 11:59, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

these items are still empty and not merged. Could you finish the task? Estopedist1 (talk) 06:08, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Coude

Please do not make a mess of object elbow joint (Q11611456). and leave elbow (Q42586) unchanged. Your wish for an object for Coude must be solved by reusing som of these two or creating a new object, not by changing hte existing ones Yger (talk) 17:59, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi Yger, sorry for the mess.

But that's because there is a conceptual error around the elbow and elbow joint objects. In french coude et articulation du coude are ambiguous terms. For coude can mean the anatomical region or the anatomical joint, but it's not specific to french language, I think.

The anatomical references FMA, TA98 and TA2 distinguish them :

For elbow : FMA, TA98, TA2

For elbow joint : FMA, TA98, TA2

Maybe articulation olécranienne (Q11611456) and humeroulnar joint (Q5940709) are the same and should be merged ?

I don't understand the articles associated with the object articulation olécranienne (Q11611456) (Japanese and Swedish).

What do you think about ? Dbult (talk) 19:11, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

But then make a special object for the french article. Do not make a mess of the ones asociated with the two I remarked upon, they are correct. Yger (talk) 17:16, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

It happens frequently that one word can mean multiple entities. The English word "arm" for example can refer to four different Wikidata items. We don't have an item for the English word arm. We have items for each of the different meanings. When it comes to anatomical items, focus first on the different meanings that exist and create items for them and then add the Wikipedia link to the page that fits best.

When a word in ambigiuous, do not try to match the ambigiouness in the items.

humeroulnar joint (Q5940709) is one of three parts of elbow joint (Q11611456).

As far as the elbow goes, there's the region of the elbow and there's the composite joint made up of Articulatio radioulnaris proximalis

If ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 18:06, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Can you be more clear about what are first order and what are second order classes?

I see that you added phalanx of foot (Q184494) instance of (P31) endochondral bone (Q123421325). This suggests that endochondral bone (Q123421325) is a second order class. bone (Q265868) however is no second order class. The corresponding second order class is bone organ type (Q103843146). ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 17:38, 14 November 2023 (UTC)