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Q30 nl label

Re your edit to United States of America (Q30)'s Dutch label: Note that labels do not need to be unique. It's not a problem for multiple items to share the same label. --Yair rand (talk) 21:33, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Also the English label says "United States of America", and not just "United States". And so it should. Pommée (talk) 21:40, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

Same comment, see Help:Label to learn how label works on Wikidata. Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 20:20, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

The readers should be able to distinguish the items on the next higher level. Have a look at the other languages: all show the distinction between singles and doubles. And for a good reason. Pommée (talk) 20:39, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

No and not with parentheses, again see Help:Label. Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 21:04, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

I was going to do a clean-up of labels of all items of Wikidata to remove the uppercase initials and the parentheses, should I clean all items except the tennis tournaments and leave them with wrong labels? Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 09:45, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes; please, leave tennis labels unchanged. Dutch, French and Polish labels use parentheses, where English uses a dash and German uses a slash. Pommée (talk) 13:58, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Ok, I don't understand why you wish for incorrect labels but I'll respect your wish. PS: it's not just the parenthses, a lot of label start wrongly with an uppercase instead of a lowercase, I'll let you look into into. Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 08:54, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

I don't wish incorrect labels; only it's you who thinks that they are incorrect. You can read here that not all parentheses are disambiguation. Disambiguation is used for two or more items that in real life have the same name. In this case – singles and doubles tournament parts – both items really have different names. Only: the various wiki's use different interpunction: English wiki uses – and German wiki uses /. You don't remove the singles/doubles distinction there either, do you? Pommée (talk) 12:56, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

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Zie Wikidata:Administrators' noticeboard#User:Pommée. Wellicht dat je daar kan reageren. Multichill (talk) 18:42, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Zal ik doen. Pommée (talk) 18:59, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Call for participation in a task-based online experiment

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Kholoudsaa (talk) 14:10, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

WTA website

It's interesting what you said in this revert, as I was checking many WTA IDs yesterday and for quite a few the URL with /name didn't work, but changing it to /- made it work, the opposite of your experience. Bizarrely however, /name did work after changing it back from /- again! Must be some kind of server problem. Letcord (talk) 00:34, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

@Letcord: The current situation with the formatter URL (P1630) is unfortunate and uncomfortable. This bad situation was caused by user Gymnicus by making this edit. Before that time, all WTA-players had a WTA player ID (P597) consisting of the number and the actual name, such as "326735/leylah-fernandez", which worked (and still works) best at the WTA website. After Gymnicus' URL version with /name, every tennis editor at wikidata started removing the slash and the actual name for all players (which is apparently an easy task for bots). This change is very unfortunate, as we are now dependent on WTA website personnel to support the /name specification for all players. As you may be aware, WTA website quality is not quite stable these days. As a consequence, player profile retrieval attempts have varying results, varying from one player to another, and also varying from day to day or week to week.

Note: as you can read on his talk page, user Gymnicus has been criticized for several ill-considered interventions, and he was blocked in the end.

The best thing would be to go back to the situation before 12 July 2021, with formatter URL (P1630)="https://www.wtatennis.com/players/$1". But this requires all removed player names to be restored, and that is not a task that we can do manually, one by one. I am not a bot specialist, and I do not know whether a bot can be written to retrieve that name from the item history. Pommée (talk) 14:30, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

I see. Though I agree that fundamentally changing the formatter URL without any discussion was wrong, it would take a significant amount of effort to revert back to the old one. Not only would all the full IDs have to be found (possible with a script), but all templates using the WTA ID property on each language's Wikipedia would have to be changed to accommodate both the current format and the old one. The numeric IDs are what the WTA itself uses behind the scenes (as you can see in this API call [1]), so it seems to just be a server issue that hopefully will be fixed soon. Letcord (talk) 23:19, 6 April 2022 (UTC)