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RolandUnger (talkcontribs)

What is the cause that you are removing the TripAdvisor ids (P3134)?

SilentSpike (talkcontribs)

Hey, the property format was recently updated to be more correct (only the digits are the true ID).

So my Quickstatements batch should not be removing IDs, but replacing them with the correct format. If you've come across a case where the ID was strictly removed please let me know, thanks.

Eurohunter (talkcontribs)

Hello. Why is bot replacing Q48799541 with Q28378282?

SilentSpike (talkcontribs)

Hey, that's to make the data homogeneous. You can see from the following query that the latter is preferred:

SELECT ?qualifiervalue ?qualifiervalueLabel (COUNT(?item) as ?ct) 
{
   ?item p:P2002 [ pq:P1552 ?qualifiervalue ]
   SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en". }               
}
GROUP BY ?qualifiervalue ?qualifiervalueLabel 
ORDER BY DESC(?ct)

Try it!

I'd refer you to Property_talk:P2002#Representing_various_account_qualities where I've started a discussion on how to represent various account qualities.

Summary by SilentSpike

Interwiki links were to two different mountains. New item was created and links have been split appropriately.

Andrew Gray (talkcontribs)

I'm trying to figure out where Beinn Mheadhonach (Q20581792) should be located - the coordinates have it on the Western Isles, you made an edit locating it in Argyll (sourced to DOBIH) and the Welsh WP article has it in the Highlands, but with a description (between Loch Linnhe & Loch Etive) that would fit with very northern Argyll. I don't think I have a good map of either area, unfortunately!

Any ideas? It might be that there are two of them...

SilentSpike (talkcontribs)

Yeah I think what's happened is that the cebwiki and svwiki articles are about another mountain/hill with the same name on the Western Isles and have been erroneously linked to this item about the 715m mountain in Argyll (I would go with the DOBIH here, unless cywiki has another reference that corroborates it being in the Highlands, in which case both can be listed).

It's a common error to come across in my experience matching items from the DOBIH because there are so many repeat names and half the time the ceb/sv wikis actually have incorrect information. Looks like the Western Isles mountain is this one.

There also is another mountain by the same name in the Highland area.

Andrew Gray (talkcontribs)

Great, thanks - I'll split out items for each of the others and hopefully that should forestall future confusion!

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Llywelyn2000 (talkcontribs)

Good to see that someone else has been updating the data on the Scottish peaks! I created around 2,200 cywiki (Welsh language) articles (by hand!) 9 years ago, using the same db (The Database of British and Irish Hills), but many of them still remain quite lonely, with no corresponding articles in any other languages! I think there are around 1,400 missing on enwiki! Because of this, the Wikidata remains very week! I'm going to pop our Wikidata infoboxes, shortly on all cywiki articles, so will try and match up articles with WD. I'm using [https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defnyddiwr%3ALlywelyn2000%2FMynyddoedd_yr_Alban this WD listeria list] to plough through them, in case you're interested. Best regards... ~~~~

SilentSpike (talkcontribs)

Hey, that's incredible!


I have been wondering why I was able to consistently find so many existing items with only Welsh articles. It looks like the Swedish and Cebuano language wikis also have fairly decent coverage (though accuracy is spotty in my experience).


I'm currently importing data as I slowly match DoBIH entries to existing Wikidata items (see this mix n' match catalogue). Any time items are matched via property DoBIH Number (P6515), data coverage will improve when I perform my import process. My hope is to eventually have all existing items matched this way, at which point new items can be safely created without fear of duplication for the remaining peaks in the DoBIH (meaning lists like your link are super useful in ensuring I've found all existing items first).


Any help in matching items to the DoBIH is appreciated - particularly from someone with the same area of interest. I hope the improved wikidata coverage is of use to you. Let me know if there's any data in particular you'd like to see imported. Kind Regards.

Cell Danwydd (talkcontribs)

Wonderful! I hadn't seen the Mix 'n Match DoBIH project! I had thought of starting a M+M based on coordinates, so that any duplicates can be found, but I'll join yours when I can (time, oh, time!). But importing other fields from DoBIH is just as important, creating rich content! I'll keep you informed of any developments! Scotland first, Wales follows! Best regards... ~~~~

Cell Danwydd (talkcontribs)

just seen the M+M and it has all mountains in the UK. Is there a way of filtering to Scotland only? Maybe I need to delve deeper into it! Great project! ~~~~

Llywelyn2000 (talkcontribs)

Thanks both! I'll plod on adding the English names on the list I mentioned, so that they will be found on the mix n' match tool. As I mentioned, the Wikidata infobox will be added shortly, so the more the merrier. i've sent a dm to editors interested in geography projects, so we might even turn this into a mini WikiProject! Best regards!

Cell Danwydd (talkcontribs)

Just spent an hour on M+M, with no luck! Much harder than it looks! I'm going back to liverworts, and I'll have a look when I have time! @Llywelyn2000 - angen help! ~~~~

Llywelyn2000 (talkcontribs)

OK. i've done the first 50 on this list in 90 minutes; the dobih is the second column. @Cell Danwydd - ffonsan pnawn ma!

if we can help it, we need the county where the peak is situated under {{P|131}} rather than 'Scotland'.

The dobih is really the link to wd, so - THANKS @SilentSpike!

Llywelyn2000 (talkcontribs)

@SilentSpike I think if you run Mix 'n Match again - using cywiki (Welsh Wikipedia) it should match up quite a few with the Welsh articles automatically. Then we can do what's left, manually! I'm up to around 140 now.

Cell Danwydd (talkcontribs)

Brilliant! Da iawn! ~~~~

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