Wikidata:Bureaucrats' noticeboard/Archive/2024

Request for bot flag for Tildebot

Hi, I'd like to request the bot flag for Tildebot based on this discussion and the test edits I carried out a few months ago. Thank you! Minh Nguyễn ^💬 23:55, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

 Done --Lymantria (talk) 07:48, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Request for bot permission Mfchris84-Bot

Hi i have added today a request for bot permission: Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/Mfchris84-Bot. Thanks for your review. Mfchris84 (talk) 19:45, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Requesting restoration of admin rights

Hi, I got a notice from @Lymantria: this morning (User_talk:Mike_Peel#Sysop_rights) that I hadn't done enough logged actions with my account, and within 10 minutes, with no discussion, my admin right were removed (meta:Steward_requests/Permissions#Mike_Peel@wikidata). I use the tools mostly to look at deleted items, particularly those created by my bot, which is why it doesn't show so many logged actions. If I had been given any sort of heads-up about the issue, I would have done some more logged actions. Please could my admin access be restored? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 13:45, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Wikidata:Administrators#Losing adminship: "Administrator access is removed from accounts which have been inactive for six months. Inactivity is defined as less than five administrator/bureaucrat actions or property creations over this six-month period. Admin accounts are checked for inactivity on the first day of each month. There is currently no reprieve system in place for inactive administrators other than filing a new permissions request." --Krd 15:19, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

@Krd: I've made way more admin actions than that, it's just they're not ones that are logged. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 15:47, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

It is commons sense and no news that only logged admin actions are meant to be admin actions, otherwise the whole concept was moot because the decision to e.g. not block a user would be an admin action, too. Krd 15:58, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

for what its worth I think 6 months is kinda short for this. BrokenSegue (talk) 16:21, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

I know the policy is clear, but it pains me to see situations like this. Mike Peel is still actively using their tools - I wish there was some flexibility in allowing him to continue to do so without making a token five deletions or blocks. At a minimum there should be some notification before desysopping to allow time to respond / make some actions for those that lose track. We gain very little by forcing people out. -- Ajraddatz (talk) 16:39, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

As the removing steward here, I do agree with what has been said on SRP that inactive admins should be sent a notice a few days before their adminship is removed. But, I do also think our time of us being the only ones who can remove local administrators on Wikidata should soon come to an end, and this should be taken over by local bureaucrats after some time. EPIC (talk) 16:42, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Addition: If the bureaucrat do not restore the rights here, I would have no problems supporting a new RfP for Mike Peel. EPIC (talk) 18:09, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

No, we had a similar incident with Fuzheado in the past, and the consensus was he had to go for a new RfA (which he immediately did). With all my respect to Mike, he should do the same. Ymblanter (talk) 20:59, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

I'm afraid I do agree with that. But I do feel that it would be wise if sysops slipping into inactivity would be notified a couple of days before. Potential inactivity can easily be derived from User:MisterSynergy/activity/Administrator. --Lymantria (talk) 21:45, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

I agree on giving notices beforehand, as my relatively quick removal is what caused all of this, and in the future, us stewards would probably want to avoid such cases. But like mentioned, I think this process should be taken over locally by giving local bureaucrats privileges to remove administrators, which has already been done on Commons and multiple other same size wikis, instead of having stewards do this. EPIC (talk) 21:58, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

User:Pi admin bot is currently still flagged as an admin, even though the operator is not an admin. Our current policy (Wikidata:Bots) does not specify that adminbots must be deflagged if the operator is deflagged, as far as I can see, but just want to point this out. --DannyS712 (talk) 22:05, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

There was no issue at all, especially no need to create a precedent, is the user could just be responsible for their own fault, accept that the valid policy applies to them and just create new RFA instead of this drama. Krd 06:36, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. I've now submitted Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Administrator/Mike Peel 2. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 13:10, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Flooders flag

@Vogone, Ymblanter, Lymantria:I would like to request Flooders flag as I'm going to revert some large number batches, some information in Bangla was added wrongly by myself. Those edits repetition in the RC which does not required to passage. However, I would greatly appreciate it if I were granted Flooders. Will be remove itself once not required. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 04:42, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

 Done Granted for a month, you can indeed remove the flag once not needed anymore. --Lymantria (talk) 06:19, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

I think that this discussion is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, don't hesitate to replace this template with your comment. DannyS712 (talk) 01:20, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Joining the team

Hi. I'm looking forward to working with the existing team. Wikidata:Bureaucrats says that we have a mailing list - is it still used? If so, please approve my request to join that I just submitted. If not, we should update the page to remove the mention. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 18:00, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

I am not on that list... If it exists, it may be worth joining. --Lymantria (talk) 05:33, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

I sent private messages to both of you concerning the list. My apologies for being slow, I have been on holidays for the last two weeks, with the last two days in the flight / stopover. Ymblanter (talk) 09:30, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

i have a question : what's the guideline for "bureaucracy " ? Yuchenglinedu (talk) 16:00, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

Flood flag up for me

I wish to work on constraint violations listed here (an example), especially those listed in "Symmetric" violations section. I intend to make use of OpenRefine or QuickStatements to make edits in large numbers (10,000+ at least), according to the list maintained by bot above. And I'm here to request flood flag up for me, as making that many of edits would flood RecentChanges easily. And ALLAH said, “Together _we ^unite!” And there’s power. 03:27, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

I have granted the flood flag for 6 weeks, but if you complete your mass edits earlier, please remove the flag yourself. Thank you. --Lymantria (talk) 05:22, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

I think the planned edits should be discussed first. There's already been some discussion on the property's talk page about whether that constraint should even exist (here), so mass-adding inverse statements to remove the constraint violations seems likely to be controversial (especially if statements which have been removed are being re-added). - Nikki (talk) 05:45, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I had some discussions with Nikki just now in Wikidata chatroom on Telegram, and he made some oppositions. I'd like to hear more voice on the issue, and before an agreement is reached, I wouldn't proceed with my actions. And ALLAH said, “Together _we ^unite!” And there’s power. 06:03, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Block Pi bot

I cleaned up P625 for villages in Andhra Pradesh, India. I have deleted P625 on 2000+ villages, as the values are duplicated on several others. The import from enwiki is the main source of these duplicates. I find Pi bot again adding coordinates importing from enwp. As we are participating in Coordinate Me 2024, the operation of the bot is a hindrance. Hence I request it to be blocked till 1st June 2024. I have already raised the issue at User_talk:Mike_Peel#Please_do_not_import_coordinate_claims_from_enwp_for_villages_in_Andhra_Pradesh. I request the admins to immediately block User:Pi bot. Arjunaraoc (talk) 04:24, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

@Arjunaraoc: The bot task is working as intended, as the coordinates are available on enwiki, and the villages should have coordinates here. If they are wrong coordinates, you should fix them here and on enwiki, you should not just delete them. Mike Peel (talk) 07:30, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

@Mike Peel, We are fixing first on Wikidata, as we can validate using scripts with OSM. Later we will update on Wikipedia. As the special contest to improve wikidata is going on, I request you to stop your bot for the period of the campaign. Arjunaraoc (talk) 07:36, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

@Arjunaraoc: In that case, update the coordinates here as you go, don't just delete them. The bot is not checking for coordinate mismatches, so it would not revert changes. Mike Peel (talk) 07:40, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

@Mike Peel, Use of quick statements requires that I delete the old P625 which is incorrect and add a new entry for P625, with source information. The first one can only be done with Quickstatements Ver 1, and second step is more convenient with Quick statements Ver 2. We have over 16000 villages out of which we need to add about coordinates to 13000 villages. I have done the first step already. I am on the second step right now and contest participants will only look at villages without P625 to add manually. Hence it is important to stop any automated bot updates which do not have any quality checks for their imports this month. Alternately, if it is possible, you can exclude all the villages of Andhra Pradesh from your bot operation for this month. I read on Wikiproject Geocordinates that bulk of populating the coordinates is already done on English wikipedia. If you stop your bot for three weeks, I do not think any major backlog will pileup. Arjunaraoc (talk) 07:48, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

To be honest, I think you're approaching the problem the wrong way. I guess quickstatements doesn't allow modification of values (which is odd), and I'm not sure why you aren't using pywikibot to replace values instead. You could run smaller quickstatement batches to make sure deletion/addition takes place in short order. However, as a gesture of good faith, I've stopped the coordinates import task for now, and will restart it next month. Note that Pi bot does a lot of different things (see its user page for a list), and your request to block it would have caused a lot of issues if it had been actioned. Mike Peel (talk) 16:49, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

@Mike Peel, Thanks for your suggestion about using Pywikibot. I will investigate it. Thanks for your cooperation to suspend coordinates import task. I will let you know once we complete the task early, so that you can resume your coordinate import task. Arjunaraoc (talk) 22:06, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

@Mike Peel, If your bot only adds P625 from Enwiki and not Tewiki, when it is not already present, you can go ahead and run your bot. Thanks for your cooperation. Arjunaraoc (talk) 01:18, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Bot task restarted today. It does not import from tewiki. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:58, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

I think that this discussion is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, don't hesitate to replace this template with your comment. DannyS712 (talk) 06:55, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Inactive interface admins, June 2024

The following interface administrators are inactive per Wikidata:Interface administrators (as of Special:Permalink/1956706843):

• User:Mbch331 (per criteria 2: zero JS/CSS edits outside their user space in twelve months, last qualifying edit Special:Diff/1901312143)

Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 05:57, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Rights removed, Special:Redirect/logid/668843698. Thank you for your service --DannyS712 (talk) 06:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

Also confirmed no inactive admins or crats --DannyS712 (talk) 06:02, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

I think that this discussion is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, don't hesitate to replace this template with your comment. DannyS712 (talk) 06:56, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Approve ELMCIPBot

Two weeks ago I created the ELMCIPBot request and ran a trial of 100 edits of adding ELMCIP IDs to items. There haven't been any objections and I would like to request the bot flag.

Wikidata:Requests_for_permissions/Bot/ELMCIPBot Colin R Robinson (talk) 09:36, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

@Colin R Robinson please wait for the request to be approved in the normal course of the bot permissions page being monitored by administrators. See the note at the top of Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot: "Once consensus is obtained in favor of granting the botflag, please post requests at the bureaucrats' noticeboard." --DannyS712 (talk) 05:31, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

I think that this discussion is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, don't hesitate to replace this template with your comment. DannyS712 (talk) 06:56, 9 June 2024 (UTC)