Wikidata:Property proposal/феноритмотип

phenological features edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Natural science

Not done

Description	describes the phenological cycle of a plant
Data type	Item
Domain	taxon (Q16521), у которого taxon rank (P105) = species (Q7432), section (Q3181348), genus (Q34740)
Allowed values	deciduous plant (Q1131316), evergreen plant (Q190489), semi-deciduous plant (Q738961) efemeroidy (Q4533184), гемиэфемероиды, весенне-летнезелёные, весенне-летне-осеннезелёные, весенне-летне-зимнезелёные.
Example 1	Aesculus hippocastanum (Q26899) → deciduous plant (Q1131316)
Example 2	Juniperus sabina (Q148630) → evergreen plant (Q190489)
Example 3	Vinca minor (Q161777) → Зимнезеленые растения
Example 4	Crocus autranii (Q4521090) → efemeroidy (Q4533184)

Motivation edit

machine translation into English edit

Primarily for the OpenStreetMap (Q936) project. If you specify a biological taxon from Wikidata in the map editor using the species:wikidata key, then you can automatically get the leaf_cycle property. This is an immanent property of a biological taxon. Betula pendula (Q156895) - always deciduous plant (Q1131316), tulip (Q93201) - always efemeroidy (Q4533184)

For example, the element deciduous plants (Q1131316) has the entry tag or key OpenStreetMap (P1282)=deciduous. Thus, in OSM it will be possible to get the leaf_cycle=deciduous property By setting views in the map editor via Wikidata, applications can return the required keys. For example:

species:wikidata=Q26899 → leaf_cycle=deciduous
species:wikidata=Q148630 → leaf_cycle=evergreen
species:wikidata=Q901484 → leaf_cycle=semi_deciduous

По-русски edit

В первую очередь для проекта OpenStreetMap (Q936). Если в редакторе карт задать биологический таксон из Викидаты через ключ species:wikidata, тогда можно будет автоматически получать свойство leaf_cycle.

Это имманентное свойство биологического таксона. Betula pendula (Q156895) — всегда deciduous plant (Q1131316), tulip (Q93201) — всегда efemeroidy (Q4533184)

Например, элемент deciduous plant (Q1131316) имеет запись OpenStreetMap tag or key (P1282)=deciduous. Таким образом, в OSM можно будет получить свойство leaf_cycle=deciduous

Задавая в редакторе карт виды через Викидату, приложения смогут возвращать требуемые ключи. Например:

species:wikidata=Q26899 → leaf_cycle=deciduous
species:wikidata=Q148630 → leaf_cycle=evergreen
species:wikidata=Q901484 → leaf_cycle=semi_deciduous

Afanasovich (talk) 15:00, 2 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion edit

Comment Posted notice on Taxonomy Wikiproject talk page. --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 22:20, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I've always understood "phenology" to refer to the timing of recurring biological events, such as when plants flower, produce seeds, die, etc. I'm not sure that "phenological features" with the limited values that you have listed here is the correct label for this property. What you are describing here is perhaps better labelled "foliage characteristic" or "foliage type." For example, see https://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/31538, where the fact that it is deciduous is labeled just "Foliage:". At http://navigate.botanicgardens.org/weboi/oecgi2.exe/INET_ECM_DispPl?NAMENUM=13514, this information is labelled "leaf type". At https://plants.ces.ncsu.edu/plants/itea-chinensis/, it is called "Woody Plant Leaf Characteristics". At both http://woodyplants.cals.cornell.edu/plant/26 and https://garden.org/plants/view/225952/Leather-Oak-Quercus-durata-var-durata/, it is simply labelled "Leaves". UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 23:58, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with your arguments. In general, I like how the key signs of plants are organized on the site Plantarium (Q59786454). This is a more correct system in terms of botany and this classification allows you to determine which taxon a particular plant specimen belongs to. Unfortunately, they are not translated into English, but only in Russian. https://www.plantarium.ru/lang/en/page/find.html
I will give part of their plant classification system:
- plant life-form (Q2355817)
  - tree (Q10884)
    evergreen plant (Q190489)
    
    deciduous plant (Q1131316)
    
    succulent plant (Q189939)
  - prostrate tree (Q56312864)
  - liana (Q14079)
  - shrub (Q42295)
  - Prostrate shrub (Q2640465)
  - subshrub (Q12867502)
  - Q56312498
  - herbaceous plant (Q190903)
    aquatic plant (Q186101)
    floating in the water column (Q112226581)
    
    floating on the surface (Q112226581)
    
    rooting (hydrophyte (Q3143798))
    
    land plants
    annual plant (Q192691)
    
    biennial plant (Q189774)
    
    perennial plant (Q157957)
    
    efemeroidy (Q4533184)
    
    lith loooooong rhizome (Q184208) (in Russian there is an existing adjective)
    
    look like Poaceae (Q43238) (in Russian there is an existing adjective)
    
    with tuber (Q183319) (in Russian there is an existing adjective)
    
    look like liana (Q14079) (in Russian there is an existing adjective)
    
    with bulb (Q188748)
    
    creepers — herbaceous plants that have long, stretching along the ground and rooting shoots.
    
    with rosette (Q753457)
    
    succulent plant (Q189939)
- appearance (Q3620816)
  - shoot (Q220869)
  - leaf (Q33971)
    type
    ....
    
    leaf blade (Q3087886)
    ...
    
    leaf segments
    ...
    
    ...
  - inflorescence (Q156428)
  - flower (Q506)
  - fruit (Q1364)
  - cone (Q22710)
  - sporangium (Q4832012)
- habitat (Q52105)
- plant ecology (Q1387972) (more precisely ecological group of plants (Q4530267))
  - relation to soil moisture (Q889507)
    xerophyte (Q212337)
    
    mesophyte (Q1922484)
    
    hygrophytes (Q1422006)
    
    hydrophyte (Q3143798)
  - relation to soil fertility (Q202080)
    ...
  - relation to illuminance (Q194411)
    Heliophyte (Q2510477)
    
    shade-tolerant plant (Q1823274)
    
    sciophyte (Q4447755)
  - relation to salt tolerance of plants (Q21656481)
    ...
- Special features
  - ornamental plant (Q199182)
  - fodder plant (Q1985819)
  - ...
  - medicinal plant (Q188840)
  - ...
I don't understand very well the ideology of properties in Wikidata. But it seems to me that it would be good to repeat something similar for plant taxa in Wikidata. I can't do it myself, I don't have editing permissions or skills. Afanasovich (talk) 17:00, 22 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Question Isn’t this a case for just subclass of (P279)? Aesculus hippocastanum (Q26899)subclass of (P279)deciduous plant (Q1131316), Juniperus sabina (Q148630)subclass of (P279)evergreen plant (Q190489), Crocus autranii (Q4521090)subclass of (P279)efemeroidy (Q4533184)? All the classes of the plant classification system outlined above could be made instance of (P31)‘OSM plant class’ or феноритмотип and individual taxa could thus be queried by their being a subclass⁺ of such an instance. ―BlaueBlüte (talk) 12:24, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You can already use subclass of (P279) for that. 2A01:CB14:D52:1200:1C7C:90DB:B70F:A2D5 15:28, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not done, no consensus of proposed property at this time based on the above discussion. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 10:40, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]