Wikidata:Property proposal/Algerian province ID

Algerian province ID

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

Not done

Description	identifier for a province in the Ministry of Tourism and Handicrafts (Algeria) (Q16632260)
Represents	Ministry of Tourism and Handicrafts (Algeria) (Q16632260)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	province of Algeria (Q240601), wilayah (Q19576), department (Q643589)
Allowed values	[a-z]
Example 1	Boumerdès Province (Q236752) → boumerdes
Example 2	Algiers Province (Q141026) → alger
Example 3	Tipasa Province (Q235814) → tipaza
Example 4	Adrar Province (Q188166) → adrar
Example 5	Béchar Province (Q215467) → bechar
Example 6	Tamanrasset Province (Q229467) → tamanrasset
Example 7	Illizi Province (Q233659) → illizi
Example 8	Tindouf Province (Q231151) → tindouf
Example 9	Djanet Province (Q77101547) → djanet
Example 10	Ouargla Province (Q235709) → ouargla
Example 11	Naama Province (Q233675) → naama
Source	https://www.mta.gov.dz/
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Implied notability	Wikidata property for an identifier that does not imply notability (Q62589320)
Formatter URL	https://$1.mta.gov.dz/
Country	Algeria (Q262)
See also	Algerian commune ID (P12636), Algerian district ID (P12665), INSEE department code (P2586)
Applicable "stated in"-value	Ministry of Tourism and Handicrafts (Algeria) (Q16632260)
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	WikiProject Authority control (Q88300058), WikiProject Algeria (Q15884584)

Motivation

Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control: Highly authoritative source in the Ministry of Tourism and Handicrafts (Algeria) (Q16632260) (URL: https://www.mta.gov.dz/). --Soufiyouns (talk) 06:04, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

This does not seems to be really an identifier, and it can only be used in 58 items. Instead, it is better to create 58 items for ministries of Tourism in each province and add official website (P856) to each of them.--GZWDer (talk) 10:48, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@GZWDer: Thank you for your kind comment. I give you the following examples to enrich the discussion:
1. Elysee.fr president ID (P5440) is used in ~27 items.
2. INSEE region code (P2585) is used in ~72 items.
3. Région Île-de-France ID (P8677) is used in ~84 items.
4. INSEE department code (P2586) is used in ~131 items.
Regards. Soufiyouns (talk) 09:44, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
INSEE region code (P2585) seems a real ID instead of part of the domain. GZWDer (talk) 14:51, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@GZWDer:, would you like to give your opinion? Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 12:48, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why is Ministry of Tourism and Handicrafts (Algeria) (Q16632260) a more appropriate choice than Ministry of the Interior of Algeria (Q3315224) for this specific context? Can we narrow down the focus of the ID to better suit our needs? --Nehaoua (talk) 21:10, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Soufiyouns:, could you please clarify the comments above by @Nehaoua:. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 12:48, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment @Nehaoua, ZI Jony: This property aims to describe the province of Algeria (Q240601) in terms of tourism in relation to the Ministry of Tourism and Handicrafts (Algeria) (Q16632260). We can propose another property later to describe these provinces on the administrative level in relation to the Ministry of the Interior of Algeria (Q3315224). For example, the following two (2) properties were both created to describe French communes: EHESS ID of a French commune (P8422) and INSEE municipality code (P374). Regards. --Soufiyouns (talk) 12:56, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose only 58 is not nearly enough. Multichill (talk) 16:24, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done, not created per lack of support. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 07:32, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]