Wikidata:Property proposal/Australian Prints + Printmaking work ID
Australian Prints + Printmaking work ID
editOriginally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control
| Description | identifier for a work in the Australian Prints + Printmaking database |
|---|---|
| Represents | Australian Prints + Printmaking (Q108865719) |
| Data type | External identifier |
| Domain | print (Q11060274) |
| Allowed values | [1-9]\d* |
| Example 1 | The Banksia Tree (Q108865835) → 39004 |
| Example 2 | Hobart Town, Van Dieman's Land from Blufhead (Q108865877) → 3854 |
| Example 3 | Parramatta, New South Wales (Q108865902) → 32705 |
| Source | https://www.printsandprintmaking.gov.au/artists/ |
| External links | Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt]. |
| Planned use | try to match any famous prints already on Wikidata, then possibly plan a scrape for Sum of All Paintings |
| Expected completeness | always incomplete (Q21873886) |
| Formatter URL | https://www.printsandprintmaking.gov.au/works/$1/ |
| Robot and gadget jobs | yes |
| Applicable "stated in"-value | Australian Prints + Printmaking (Q108865719) |
| Distinct-values constraint | yes |
| Wikidata project | WikiProject Australia (Q11036831) |
Motivation
editAn extensive database of prints, collated by experts at the National Gallery of Australia. 99of9 (talk) 12:13, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
Discussion
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Notified participants of WikiProject Australia --99of9 (talk) 12:13, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
Support JarrahTree (talk) 12:16, 11 October 2021 (UTC)- Support --Dhx1 (talk) 13:04, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- Support MargaretRDonald (talk) 21:22, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
- Eothan (talk) 05:13, 12 October 2021 (UTC) This prints proposal for wikidata properties caught my eye because of the work we tried doing with the artists index a while back. The example https://www.printsandprintmaking.gov.au/works/32705/ which is wikidata https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q108865902 made me wonder how property ID's are attached to a particular wikidata item. In the instance of a print there may be many examples of this one print over different editions and presumably if hand-coloured may differ slightly and be held in many different collections - does the property ID you are suggesting only refer to this one print or do all versions of this print get added to this one wikidata item, each with a new collection and qualifier statement. Or does a new wikidata entry get created for each edition, or copy of the Lycett print of Parramatta and if so does a different property ID need to refer to another source to identify this item. You can see how this may play out in the example above which assigns this wikidata item to the collection of the National Gallery of Australia. Also to note the inventory number seems to suggest the Wikidata item is a single object and requires a collection qualifier either way collections need to have a location assigned to them and I'm not sure how to get around this if one wikidata item is used to describe all versions in multiple collections.
- Thanks Eothan. Do you mind if I move your note over to Wikidata:Property proposal/Australian Prints + Printmaking work ID? Because I think it's most relevant to works, not artists. In answer to your question, I think a good example of a print which is in many collections is The Great Wave off Kanagawa (Q252485). On that item they seem to have got around the problem you've identified. Although at some point each copy/edition may get its own item, but personally I'd prefer not to go that way. --99of9 (talk) 09:12, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks 99of9 - the example The Great Wave off Kanagawa (Q252485) seems to also have issues as every collection entry has potential problems from using images as qualifiers to not including locations or inventory numbers. it would be good if we could lobby to get some of these cleared for use under the collection property? Eothan (talk) 09:35, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks Eothan. Do you mind if I move your note over to Wikidata:Property proposal/Australian Prints + Printmaking work ID? Because I think it's most relevant to works, not artists. In answer to your question, I think a good example of a print which is in many collections is The Great Wave off Kanagawa (Q252485). On that item they seem to have got around the problem you've identified. Although at some point each copy/edition may get its own item, but personally I'd prefer not to go that way. --99of9 (talk) 09:12, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
