Wikidata:Property proposal/Illustrateur de la couverture

cover illustrator

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work

   Not done

Description	designer of the cover of this (edition of a) book or other physical work
Data type	Item
Template parameter	Illustrateur de la couverture dans fr:Modèle:Infobox Titre de livre-jeu
Domain	jeu, livre-jeu, jeu de rôle
Example	Le grand mammouth (Q33024212) -> "item for the cover of Le grand mammouth", with artist Marcel Laverdet (Q23708238)
Planned use	fr:Modèle:Infobox Titre de livre-jeu et ses centaines de titres concernés / fr:Modèle:Infobox Titre de livre-jeu and his thousands of concerned title
Robot and gadget jobs	non

Motivation

in french Bonjour, nous sommes actuellement en train de réaliser pour le projet livre-jeu la mise au propre des pages concernant les livres-jeux, or nous ne parvenons pas à faire distinguer clairement l'illustrateur de l'intérieur du livre de celui de la couverture, et nous sommes réduits à utiliser le paramètre créateur (P170), ce qui n'est pas adapté. Raison pour laquelle nous souhaiterions la création d'une propriété propre : l'illustrateur de la couverture. (par exemple, Marcel Laverdet (Q23708238) est l'illustrateur couverture de Le grand mammouth (Q33024212)

in english Hello, we are working on the Gamebook portal, cleaning up Wikipedia articles related to gamebooks, and we cannot properly distinguish the author of the artwork on the front cover from the author of the illustrative pictures inside the book. The only way we've found is to use the creator parameter (P170), which is not accurate. This is why we would like the addition of a property : 'Illustrator of the cover atwork'. For instance: Marcel Laverdet (Q23708238) is the illustrator of the cover artwork of Le grand mammouth (Q33024212)

PhiJai (talk) 14:44, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Discussion

 Comment Many books like Alice in Wonderland (commonly cited) have been illustrated and currently, we use 'illustrator' (illustrator (P110)) for this. Why do we need one more additional property? Jsamwrites (talk) 16:27, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

 Comment well, I think *cover* illustrations are different from illustrations within a book. However, I think here it would make more sense to have instead a property for "cover illustration", which can then be given a full set of properties as for any artwork, rather than having a special property just for the person who created it. ArthurPSmith (talk) 20:31, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

 Comment I agree, a property for "cover illustration" would be perfect, the name is amended PhiJai (talk) 21:17, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

 Support with this meaning, however the examples, French translations and some other parts of the proposal here still need to be fixed. ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:59, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Would this be the property version of cover artist (Q29043496)? --Hannolans (talk) 20:46, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

 Support if the book cover illustrator is meant, in favor. --Hannolans (talk) 12:08, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

•  Support. Seems reasonable. --Yair rand (talk) 02:41, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

 Comment Why can't you use cover art by (P736)? - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 10:12, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

•  Oppose I've struck out my original support here as the idea to make this a property for the illustration (not the illustrator) seems to have been abandoned, and P736 definitely seems to be a duplicate of the original proposal here that already exists, so this is unnecessary. ArthurPSmith (talk) 10:13, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
•  Oppose Duplicate per ArthurPSmith ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 19:02, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

@Hannolans, Yair rand, PhiJai: Do you see a reason why cover art by (P736) doesn't do the job? ChristianKl (talk) 12:36, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

• Nope. Support rescinded. --Yair rand (talk) 00:19, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

@Hannolans, Yair rand, PhiJai, ArthurPSmith, Valentina.Anitnelav, ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2: Not done, use cover art by (P736). ChristianKl (✉) 21:17, 24 November 2017 (UTC)