Wikidata:Property proposal/MIAR ID

MIAR ID edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

Not done

Description	identifier of a journal in MIAR
Data type	External identifier
Domain	magazine->magazine (Q41298)
Allowed values	the value is the same that ISSN
Example 1	Comunicar (Q30002251) -> ISSN = 1134-3478 -> MIAR = http://miar.ub.edu/issn/1134-3478
Example 2	RED. Revista de Educación a Distancia (Q50814551) -> ISSN = 1578-7680 -> MIAR = http://miar.ub.edu/issn/1578-7680
Example 3	Revista de Educación Inclusiva (Q50667863) -> ISSN = 1989-4643 -> MIAR = http://miar.ub.edu/issn/1989-4643
Source	http://miar.ub.edu/issn/
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	I have a bot, i'll put the MIAR ID in the magazines
Formatter URL	http://miar.ub.edu/issn/$1

Motivación edit

In eswiki we have a template to put the MIAR external link, but we are deleting this kind of templates to put all of them inside Template:Authority control. Vanbasten 23 (talk) 21:56, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion edit

Support David (talk) 10:17, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Won't be enough to assign http://miar.ub.edu/issn/$1 as third-party formatter URL (P3303) in ISSN (P236) ? --Gerwoman (talk) 15:52, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose ISSN property is sufficient Germartin1 (talk) 19:26, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Weak oppose This is unnecessary assuming there exist no MIAR id distinct form ISSNs. Circeus (talk)
Oppose Cwf97 (talk) 16:07, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment It isn´t the same case that DOAJ? --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 17:01, 6 October 2018 (UTC) @Cwf97: @Circeus: @Germartin1:[reply]

Comment It is apparently the very same situation as in Directory of Open Access Journals ID (P5115) (that one was OK, why?). No, it's not enough assigning that url in P236 because not every periodical with a ISSN is indexed in MIAR. I'm not a big fan of the P5115 solution, but people pushed for it, probably because they want a clickable link here (?). You can always store the fact of a journal being indexed in MIAR this way (catalog (P972)-> MIAR (Q24033617)) and fix the module to use that data in wikipedia combined with P236 value. strakhov (talk) 23:27, 21 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment You can use it as source for ISSN:

RED. Revista de Educación a Distancia (Q50814551) -> ISSN = 1578-7680 -> S854 = http://miar.ub.edu/issn/1578-7680

See for example Q57315347

--Gerwoman (talk) 18:59, 23 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

But I don't understand why DOAJ can have its own Directory of Open Access Journals ID (P5115), and MIAR cannot. Why some repositories do, and others do not. Some have a statement and others are entered as a source. There isn't uniform criterion for these decisions. Thanks. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 23:29, 28 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not done, the discussion has stalled without consensus. The DOAJ case was not consensual either, the creation of Directory of Open Access Journals ID (P5115) was a bit of a controversy as it was disputed for the same reasons. − Pintoch (talk) 21:10, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]