Wikidata:Property proposal/National Library of Chile ID
National Library of Chile ID
editOriginally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control
Description | alias: BNCHL ID |
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Represents | Collective Catalog of Bibliographic Authorities of Chile (Q19896851) |
Data type | External identifier |
Allowed values | \d{9} |
Example 1 | Michelle Bachelet (Q320) → 000223672 (VIAF) |
Example 2 | Mario Vargas Llosa (Q39803) → 000007572 (VIAF) |
Example 3 | Jorge Aravena Llanca (Q15435037) → 000050205 (VIAF) |
Number of IDs in source | >412000 |
Formatter URL | http://www.bncatalogo.cl/F?func=direct&local_base=red10&doc_number=$1, third-party: http://viaf.org/processed/BNCHL%7C10000000000000$1 |
See also | CCAB ID (P1890), Biblioteca Nacional de Chile catalogue number (P1966) |
Motivation
editVIAF component (code BNCHL).
@Diego Grez, Sergey kudryavtsev, Kolja21, Pigsonthewing: This is closely related to but different from CCAB ID (P1890). As you can see at https://viaf.org/processed/BNCHL%7C10000000000000000223672, CCAB ID (P1890) is listed as a secondary id RED10000000000000000606940 but the official ID is (BNCHL)BNC10000000000000000223672. Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 13:06, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
Discussion
editSupport. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:16, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
Support -- Sergey kudryavtsev (talk) 04:36, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
Support David (talk) 07:08, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
Support --Trade (talk) 21:45, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
@Diego Grez, Sergey kudryavtsev, Kolja21, Pigsonthewing, ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Trade: Thanks for the support. Then what are your thoughts on this proposed prop vs CCAB ID (P1890)?
- IMHO we shouldn't have both because that would be redundant, and make maintenance harder
- P1890 has a formatter URL at bncatalogo.cl (http://www.bncatalogo.cl/F?func=direct&local_base=red10&doc_number=$1) but I can't find such for this proposed prop
- Note: P1890 has 1.4k values that would need to be migrated
- Do you know any Chileans who we can involve in this discussion? --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 13:43, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
Updated:
- On a hunch, I found a URL http://www.bncatalogo.cl/F?func=direct&local_base=bnc10&doc_number=000223672 (called No. Notis) and updated the "formatter URL" above.
- Compared to the URL for CCAB ID (P1890) http://www.bncatalogo.cl/F?func=direct&local_base=red10&doc_number=000606940 (called No. control sistema), the other one has no content but leads to a bunch of links (of which Tarjeta catalográfica and Nombre de etiquetas have rich content)
- So maybe we need both IDs after all?
- The library system underlying bncatalogo.cl is not very user friendly :-( --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 13:49, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
The labels should be clearly distinguishable:
- National Library of Chile ID
- CCAB ID (P1890), BNC = National Library of Chile, ID = ID
How should a user know the difference? --Kolja21 (talk) 14:46, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
- @Kolja21: Exactly. So I think only one should remain: and I think the one I propose is more official. So we should appropriate the existing prop, add some aliases, change the formatter, and migrate the existing 1.4k values --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 11:10, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
@ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Sergey kudryavtsev, Vladimir Alexiev, Trade, Pigsonthewing, Kolja21: Done: National Library of Chile ID (P7369). − Pintoch (talk) 20:30, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
Broken?
editAll links under National Library of Chile ID seem to be broken.--Keith Edkins (talk) 13:23, 30 January 2024 (UTC)