Wikidata:Property proposal/US Bureau of Prisons Register Number

US Bureau of Prisons Inmate Register Number edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Person

Done: US Bureau of Prisons Inmate Register Number (P8007) (Talk and documentation)

Data type	External identifier
Template parameter	N/A
Allowed values	\d+-\d+
Example 1	George Papadopoulos (Q39073776) → 91344-083
Example 2	Martin Shkreli (Q6776585) → 87850-053
Example 3	Martha Stewart (Q234606) → 55170-054
Example 4	Kodak Black (Q22005867) → 18149-104
Source	https://www.bop.gov/mobile/find_inmate/#inmate_results
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	people who have been convicted of federal crimes and sent to prison in the US
Number of IDs in source	millions
Expected completeness	complete for newer values
Formatter URL	https://www.bop.gov/PublicInfo/execute/inmateloc?todo=query&output=json&inmateNum=$1&inmateNumType=IRN
Robot and gadget jobs	No

Motivation edit

Seems like a valuable thing to have. BrokenSegue (talk) 08:15, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion edit

Support ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:46, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for living people --- Jura 16:19, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry, I'm unfamiliar with wikidata's policies. Is there a precedent for only non-living people properties? What's the rationale. please excuse my naïveté. BrokenSegue (talk) 22:27, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - @BrokenSegue: See Wikidata:Living people for the policy - however all that should be needed is to make it an instance of property that may violate privacy (Q44601380). ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:23, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - We generally avoid making properties for SSN and similar. --- Jura 21:29, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    - Sure but this is public information that you can lookup and is often reported by the media when people enter prison. BrokenSegue (talk) 22:29, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      - If so, maybe you could ask them to download the entire database and see why it's not possible. --- Jura 22:31, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        Ask the BoP? I mean we could probably get it via the FOIA. Or we could dump it one-by-one via https://www.bop.gov/inmateloc/ I don't get the concern. If someone is notable enough to be in wikidata then their crime could be in wikidata (through P1399) and then someone could just lookup to BoP number trivially. Also even if we had the entire database the join wouldn't be free. BrokenSegue (talk) 22:37, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        
        It seems we have different views on this. --- Jura 22:40, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        
        @Jura1: Is your objection that the BOP should not maintain a publically-accessible database of inmates that is reliable and irrevocable, or that we should not link to that source? U+1F360 (talk) 03:45, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        No, it's that they don't provide a downloadable database, so we shouldn't either. --- Jura 09:45, 22 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support This is public information and is a reliable source. The data in the source is also irrevoccable. U+1F360 (talk) 03:40, 16 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support with a little more work, the current url system does not work. --RAN (talk) 22:04, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Trade (talk) 00:56, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@BrokenSegue, ArthurPSmith, Jura1, Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ), Trade: Done --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 05:05, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]