Wikidata:Property proposal/edition-version

edition/version edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

Done: edition/version (P9767) (Talk and documentation)

Description	the official edition or version name for a resource that is not part of the title or subtitle of the resource
Represents	version, edition or translation (Q3331189)
Data type	Monolingual text
Domain	item; version, edition or translation (Q3331189)
Example 1	Taste of Love (Taste Version) (Q107050654) → Taste Version
Example 2	Taste of Love (Fallen Version) (Q107050890) → Fallen Version
Example 3	Encyclopaedia Judaica (2nd edition) (Q22074611) → Second Edition
Example 4	Elementos de la Ciencia Contradanzaria (Q64856455) → Segunda Edición
Example 5	Donnie Darko (The Director's Cut) (Q22350741) → The Director's Cut
Example 6	Collective Choice and Social Welfare (2017 expanded edition) (Q54640279) → An Expanded Edition and First Harvard University Press Edition
Source	https://schema.org/version

Motivation edit

Music/creative-work releases - especially KPOP albums - often have distinguishing names that are assigned to the specific product but not part of actual official name (P1448) or title (P1476).

For example, the full name for an album would be "Taste of Love: The 10th Mini Album (Taste ver.)". Here, "Taste of Love" is the title, "The 10th Mini Album" is the subtitle, and "Taste ver." is the version.

This "version" is what this proposed property fulfills and it should match usage as described in the MusicBrainz style guide. Lectrician1 (talk) 03:25, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Discussion edit

Support --This property fulfills a need of recording what we call in cataloging rules the "edition statement", that is a transcription of a statement naming an edition that appears on a book or other manifestation being cataloged. Edition statements are statements such as "First edition", "Second edition", "3rd revised edition", "Black and white version", "Color version", "Dubbed version", "Sound version", "Director's cut", "Final cut", "Original theatrical release", "2006 edition", "High voice", "Low voice", "XYZ remix", "Richie's fabulous blue mix", etc. The corresponding property in Resource Description and Access (Q1519318) is has edition statement. The corresponding MARC bibliographic field is field 250, and there are numerous examples that you can see there. I think this property would be better named as "edition/version statement" and that it be recommended that it be an transcription of the statement of edition/version that appears on a book, video, score, art work, etc. UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 07:14, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm wondering if this should have a string rather than an item datatype? If the intent is to capture the exact string used in the "edition statement", then that could be quite widely variable (and the examples already noted are quite varied). ArthurPSmith (talk) 21:18, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The datatype is correct as Monolingual text. The domain of item is correct though I added the specific domain of version, edition or translation (Q3331189). UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 21:36, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think the description could be improved. I suggest "the official edition or version name for a resource that is not part of the title or subtitle of the resource"

Done. --Lectrician1 (talk) 01:24, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Another option for this proposed property is just changing edition number (P393) to "version" or "edition/version". That's what the schema.org equivalant property does, as it allows numbers and text. --Lectrician1 (talk) 03:06, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that's a good option. Having content that formatted differently might break some applications that use the data. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 18:43, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment This property would also be relevant for video games. While we do not (currently, generally) create items for various editions/versions of games, I think we would use it as qualifier − for identifier disambiguation purposes (see eg Q20420#P1933, with “Gold edition” and “Limited Collector's Edition”) and/or to qualify alternative_titles. And also as main statement on the few splitted items such as The Binding of Isaac (Unholy Edition) (Q60997648). Jean-Fred (talk) 11:59, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Jean-Frédéric: Then do you support? I think this is a really good use as well! --Lectrician1 (talk) 16:24, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support, an important property for products.--Arbnos (talk) 15:37, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Lectrician1, ArthurPSmith, ChristianKl, Jean-Frédéric, Arbnos: WikiProject Music has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead. WikiProject Books has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead. Done as edition/version (P9767). UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 22:18, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]