Wikidata:Property proposal/indexer

‎indexer

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work

Done: indexer (P12895) (Talk and documentation)

Description	entity responsible for compiling an index of a book, database, website or other forms of media publications in the form of a methodical arrangement of records designed to enable users to locate information quickly. Example: Hazel K. Bell (Q70226489)
Represents	indexer (Q60461966)
Data type	Item
Domain	work (Q386724)
Example 1	Seven Pillars of Wisdom (Q24323) → Hazel K. Bell (Q70226489) - ‘Indexing T. E. Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia)': https://www.liverpooluniversitypress.co.uk/doi/10.3828/index.2023.35
Example 2	The Indexing Companion (Q127112266) → Glenda Browne (Q113860450) - https://www.librarything.com/author/browneglenda
Example 3	Archaeology in Western Samoa (Q115027564) → Dorothy Brown (Q126453091) - Pg 1 of Book (Pg 3 of PDF) https://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/item/281386#page/1/mode/1up
Example 4	The familiar letters of James Howell (Q127112937) → Joseph Jacobs (Q981949) - https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/18752301
Example 5	North of England mining accident victims (Q127110815) → George Bell - https://trove.nla.gov.au/work/8137200
Source	Further reading about the indexing profession: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-28/index-history-invention-made-simultaneously-800-years-ago/100690782 https://www.penguin.com.au/books/index-a-history-of-the-9780141989662 https://glog.glennf.com/tiny-type-blog/2022/2/22/indexing-a-podcast-about-duncan-dennis-paula-clarke-bain https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/15/books/review/index-a-history-of-the-dennis-duncan.html
Planned use	crediting current and historical indexers of published works
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
See also	author (P50), editor (P98), illustrator (P110), colorist (P6338), letterer (P9191), penciller (P10837), inker (P10836) & annotator (P11105)
Wikidata project	WikiProject Library and Information Science (Q125310122)

Motivation

This role is recognised by the Association of College and Research Libraries (Q4809736) (Link to the RBMS Relationship Designators vocabulary entry for 'indexer', at the Library of Congress (Q131454) website: https://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/rbmsrel/rel00118.html )

Attribution Gap - An Index is part of a book’s 'content'. As such 'indexers' are not the same as 'editors', but create intellectual content. This is why it would be inapproriate to use author (P50), & editor (P98), for crediting indexers, and an independent property would be more suitable. The property proposal and description is broad enough to include fiction & non-fiction indexers, website indexers, database indexers, map indexers, authors who index themselves, and/or AI that get credited as indexers.

There are also notable professional indexers, who can be created as 'independent items' and linked to the published works they have indexed throughout their career. However, no clear property exists to help facilitate this credit link at the moment.

Over the last few years, alongside author (P50), & editor (P98), the Wikidata community has approved highly niche and specific properties for illustrator (P110), colorist (P6338), letterer (P9191), penciller (P10837), inker (P10836) & annotator (P11105), so there is warrant to have "indexer" in its own right.

Gender Gap - To support the continued & future work of the WikiProject Library and Information Science (Q125310122), of adding metadata for all those contributing to publishing. Indexing as a field, alongside other GLAM (Q1030034) occupations have been performed by majority women, both presently and historically. Having a property for indexers would enable us to show the contributions of women in published media more accurately and fill the gender gap (Q1501337), especially the gender gap on WikiProjects (gender bias on Wikipedia (Q17002416)). Wallacegromit1 (talk) 10:46, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Support Wallacegromit1 (talk) 10:46, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Michel Bakni (talk) 11:30, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support--باسم (talk) 11:41, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 17:50, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support --As stated in the discussion, although somewhat incorrectly, indexer is a relationship term for a specific kind of role, and I agree that Wikidata should have a property for this. The link supplied is actually not for a Library of Congress relationship, it is from the RBMS Relationship Designators vocabulary. RBMS is the Rare Books and Manuscripts Section of the Association of College and Research Libraries (ACRL), a division of the American Library Association (ALA). The Library of Congress list of relator terms is at https://id.loc.gov/vocabulary/relators.html, and does not contain the term "indexer." Nevertheless, I support this proposal. AdamSeattle (talk) 21:06, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks @AdamSeattle. First line updated. Wallacegromit1 (talk) 07:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Oronsay (talk) 18:27, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Wadakuramon (talk) 00:15, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Sandrileine (talk) 14:12, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Prosperosity (talk) 22:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- Thanks for this proposal - it will be useful. Pru.mitchell (talk) 09:50, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support --SherreyQ (talk) 23:36, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- Adam Harangozó (talk) 14:49, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Wallacegromit1, Michel Bakni, باسم, Valentina.Anitnelav, AdamSeattle, Oronsay: @Wadakuramon, Sandrileine, Prosperosity, Pru.mitchell, SherreyQ, Adam Harangozó: Done as indexer (P12895). Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 12:46, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]