Wikidata:Property proposal/langue d'écriture

writing language (for published authors)

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Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Person

Descriptionfor language/s in which a writer has written/published
Data typeItem
Template parameteron Wikisource : categories of languages for authors
Domainhuman (Q5) who publish : writers, authors, scientists, historians, philosophers, journalists, etc... all those used as author (P50) of a textual work... and also organization publish works in their own name.
Allowed valueslanguoid (Q17376908)
Example 1Jules Verne (Q33977) -> French (Q150), not Esperanto (Q143)
Example 2Wilhelm Ostwald (Q12658) -> German (Q188), not Esperanto (Q143)
Example 3Käthe Schirmacher (Q1651018) -> generally wrote in German (Q188), but also in French (Q150)
Example 4Émile Boirac (Q18436) -> French (Q150), and Esperanto (Q143) and Latin (Q397) (source : https://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb130091408)
Planned usethousands of writers (> 10000 on frwikisource)
See alsolanguages spoken, written or signed (P1412)

Motivation

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  WikiProject Books has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead. @Tpt, VIGNERON, Billinghurst: On wikisources, we need to store (through categories or infoboxes) the languages in which an author wrote, not ALL the languages s/he spokes or reads. It is a very important info for a writer. This info is as specific as the instrument a musician plays... it is identified specifically in UNIMARC (Q2755217)'s field 101, by opposition to field 102 for country (which do not systematically match) on Library catalogs.

  • translator (Q333634) translate from many languages, but generally only in one or two target language. For library authorities purpose, it is important to know not only the list of languages they translated, but also which are the target language/s.

We used languages spoken, written or signed (P1412) for long, but it is now flooded with all sorts of languages that people read, or speak, or even understand, which leads to nonsense info about the writing languages of an author, like saying Jules Verne (Q33977) wrote in esperanto, and a discussion on frws, aiming to remove info coming from wikidata because of this...

For years, the solution given by Tpt was to "privilege" the writing language, but this seems to pose problems to esperanto projects... and was systematically undone recently. --Hsarrazin (talk) 22:07, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Accurimbono, Candalua: who asked for something similar in 2015, precisely for the same purpose. --Hsarrazin (talk) 04:59, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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