# Wikidata:Property proposal/mathematical concept definition

### mathematical concept definitionEdit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

Description | definition of a mathematical concept in natural language |
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Data type | Multilingual text (not available yet) |

Domain | instance or subclass of mathematical concept (Q24034552) |

Example | absolute value (Q120812) → "unsigned" portion of a number absolute value (Q120812) → distance of a number from zero |

#### Motivation

It's the same of "mathematical concept defining formula" but expressed in natural language instead of mathematical expression.

It differs from the item description because the latter should be a short sentence used only to identify the item. Another difference is that a mathematical concept can have multiple definitions.

It should contain as few symbols as possible to be comprehensible by everyone. Malore (talk) 18:27, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

#### Discussion

Notified participants of WikiProject Mathematics

**Oppose** Sorry, but for me is exactly the same as the description. The Wikipedia article fills the function of disambiguate the possible interpretations or definitions of a formula. The item exists to show the metadata about the formula, not its interpretation, if someone is curious about the possible meanings of it, they should go to the Wikipedia article. Good contributions, Ederporto (talk) 23:48, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

- Also, this is so subjective. The quantity of symbols does not ensures the unserstanding, the choice of words is more dangerous than the use of symbols. Ederporto (talk) 23:53, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

**Oppose** this is what the description field is for. Also multilingual text (data type) does not exist. ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:35, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

- @ArthurPSmith: They have differentt goals. The goal of the description field is to distinguish the item from similar ones, while the goal of this property is to give all the definitions of the concept. It is the same of "mathematical concept defining formula" (the other property I proposed) but in natural language instead of symbols. --Malore (talk) 21:41, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

**Oppose** Wikidata is designed to store structured information, definitions of concepts in natural language are not structured. Descriptions can be used for that. − Pintoch (talk) 13:52, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

- @Pintoch: I agree with you that Wikidata should store structured content, and maybe this property is not appropriate, but I think it would serve a different function than descriptions. In my opinion, descriptions (like aliases) are for identify items, not for define them, because otherwise they would need to be sourced.--Malore (talk) 02:19, 3 July 2018 (UTC)