Wikidata:Property proposal/menu items
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Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Organization
| Description | menu items served by this item |
|---|---|
| Represents | menu (Q658274) |
| Data type | Item |
| Domain | restaurant (Q11707), restaurant chain (Q18534542), bar (Q187456), main course (Q772630), entrée (Q6545590), drink (Q40050), dessert (Q182940), side dish (Q3688975), appetizer (Q1628963), etc. |
| Allowed values | dish (Q746549), drink (Q40050), |
| Example 1 | McDonald’s (Q38076) → Big Mac (Q506796) |
| Example 2 | Taco Bell (Q752941) → Pepsi (Q47719) |
| Example 3 | Docking Bay 7 Food and Cargo (Q67087828) → Braised Shaak Roast (Q67088571) |
| Example 4 | Docking Bay 7 Food and Cargo (Q67087828) → Smoked Kaadu Ribs (Q67412028) |
| See also | product or material produced or service provided (P1056), cuisine (P2012), typically sells (P7163), schema:hasMenuItem |
Motivation edit
We seem to be missing a place to put menu items. A similar property was proposed before, but the suggested solutions do not seem to completely fit. We could use product or material produced or service provided (P1056) but, a menu might include Pepsi (Q47719), which is not something a subject produces. We could use cuisine (P2012), but this property seems to be specific to kinds of cuisine rather than specific items. We could use typically sells (P7163) but again, this property seems to be about kinds of products, rather than the products themselves. Though the definition of any of these could be expanded. Lastly, has part(s) (P527) could be used, which is what I have been using, but it seems kind of odd that the parts of a restaurant chain (Q18534542) are its menu items... but maybe that makes sense? I would appreciate a more definitive answer of how we want to relate these things. If none of these are suitable, then I recommend that we create this property (or one like it). U+1F360 (talk) 20:09, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
Discussion edit
Notified participants of WikiProject Food
Comment @U+1F360: I recommend changing the name to something like "specialty food." For example, McDonald's menu contains not only burgers but also cola and other foods. In China, they also contain Chinese food. So this property name may not be suitable. --Catherine Laurence discussion 11:18, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- @Catherine Laurence: that is intentional (see Example 2). It should be a reflection of the items on the menu (that are sourced). U+1F360 (talk) 15:05, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
- The description should be more specific. If it's applied to a restaurant chain it should specify that all individual restaurants of the chain serve the given food. I'm not sure whether we can hold items for individual restaurants up to date in a meaningful way given that there are lots of different restaurants. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 10:51, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
- Comment I'm struggling to see how this could be useful. Menu items can be potentially numerous and change all the time. There would be a lot of work involved in getting this information on Wikidata, and what would be the gain? NMaia (talk) 12:10, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- @U+1F360, Catherine Laurence, ChristianKl, NMaia:
Not done Stale and not supported. ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:37, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
