Wikidata:Property proposal/valeur sur l'échelle de Schmidt

valeur sur l'échelle de Schmidt (fr) – (Please translate this into English.)

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Natural science

   Not done

Description	Schmidt sting pain index, indicating how painful that insect bite is
Data type	Decimal (1) value with a x eg 1.0/1.2/1.8/2.0/2.x/3.0/4.0/4.x-invalid datatype (not in Module:i18n/datatype)
Example 1	Sphecodes (Q15732832) ==> 1.0
Example 2	fire ant (Q1075697) ==> 2.0
Example 3	Pepsis grossa (Q1944635) ==> 4.0
Example 4	Paraponera clavata (Q73901) ==> 4.x

Motivation

Help ranking bite pain on some insects as is documented on Schmidt sting pain index (Q1818052)  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bouzinac (talk • contribs) at 17:58, 13 March 2023‎ (UTC).

Discussion

Tobias1984 (talk) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; * *Andy's edits TypingAway (talk) Daniel Mietchen (talk) Tinm (talk) Tubezlob Vincnet41 Netha Hussain Fractaler Tris T7 ^{TT me} Photocyte GoEThe (talk) Egon Willighagen

Notified participants of WikiProject Biology Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk)

• I think such a property should be made more generic since there are for instance also a Starr sting pain scale. The index used should be given as a mandatory qualifier value. Infrastruktur (talk) 07:46, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

• There doesn't seem to be any existing property for pain scale. I suggest widening the scope to any kind of human physical pain. Infrastruktur (talk) 07:57, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
• As for which qualifier to use to specify pain index, maybe determination method (P459) should be used as this is a subjective measurement? Infrastruktur (talk) 08:14, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
• @Bouzinac: What do you think? Infrastruktur (talk) 22:56, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

Starr sting pain scale look indeed very similar and I welcome the idea to mix both of them. I did not know about starr.

I am not doctor so unsure if this property widening to every stuff that can cause pain might be feasible. But it would be interesting to rank between a simple sting, a broken leg, a cancer, etc which one would be more or less painful. Bouzinac ^{💬●✒️●💛} 05:33, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Alternative proposal

Adding a generic property for pain that can can use any method of measurement as given by a qualifier. If you instead want to vote for the original proposal do that under "discussion".

•  Support In favor of a general pain property, but no support for the original proposal. Infrastruktur (talk) 06:57, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
•  Oppose not usefull. Acceptance? --Succu (talk) 21:19, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
•  Not done, no consensus of proposed property at this time based on the above discussion. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 07:45, 17 February 2024 (UTC)