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sinogram reading pattern
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Represents	sinogram reading (Q35480272)
Data type	Item
Allowed values	kun'yomi (Q1147749), on'yomi (Q718498), jūbako-yomi (Q1717979), yutō-yomi (Q683484), go-on (Q1024077), tō-on (Q7862629), kan-on (Q6360011), kan'yō-on (Q11074144), chữ Nôm reading (Q56066660), nanori (Q734625), literary readings (Q16001523), colloquial readings (Q16001526), Sino-Vietnamese reading (Q17032810) or jukujikun (Q1042523)
Example	no label (L2305-F1) → kun'yomi (Q1147749) no label (L2306-F1) → yutō-yomi (Q683484) no label (L2307-F1) → go-on (Q1024077)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties By value of property Most statements Fewest statements Most sitelinks Most linked wikis Total of sitelinks on items Most identifiers Fewest identifiers Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Database reports/Constraint violations/P5244 Map Random list
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Current uses	Total 1,326 Main statement 1,175 88.6% of uses Qualifier 151 11.4% of uses
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One of kun'yomi (Q1147749), on'yomi (Q718498), jūbako-yomi (Q1717979), yutō-yomi (Q683484), go-on (Q1024077), tō-on (Q7862629), kan-on (Q6360011), kan'yō-on (Q11074144), chữ Nôm reading (Q56066660), nanori (Q734625), literary readings (Q16001523), colloquial readings (Q16001526), Sino-Vietnamese reading (Q17032810), jukujikun (Q1042523): value must be one of the specified items. Please expand list if needed. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5244#One of, values statistics, SPARQL

Scope is as qualifier (Q54828449): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5244#Scope, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200), Wikibase form (Q54285143): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5244#Entity types

Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5244#Scope, SPARQL

ateji (Q754018)

@Duesentrieb, Afaz, Was a bee, Deryck Chan, NMaia, Okkn: @Pintoch:

Isn't ateji (Q754018) a reading pattern too? It's not listed in the constraints yet. Shisma (talk) 07:58, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

ateji (Q754018) is a type of kanji notation rather than a reading. The readings used in Ateji are primarily kun'yomi (Q1147749) readings. If we delve into further classification, we have "gi-kun gikun (Q24887699)," "jukuji-kun jukujikun (Q1042523)," and "koku-kun (国訓)" readings. Afaz (talk) 14:40, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

@Shisma, Afaz: I don't mind adding all the items mentioned in this discussion into the constraint list, if there is desire to use them. We already subdivide on'yomi (Q718498) into go-on (Q1024077), tō-on (Q7862629) etc, so I think further classification of kun'yomi (Q1147749) is also plausible. Using ateji (Q754018) can help the reader identify that the choice of Kanji in a certain term is etymologically unrelated to the origin of the pronunciation. Deryck Chan (talk) 08:59, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Multiple reading patterns in the same form?

@Duesentrieb, Afaz, Was a bee, Deryck Chan, NMaia, Okkn: @Pintoch:

should we add qualifiers, if a form is composed of multiple reading patterns? Like in 日曜日/にちようび (L640276-F1) where the first 日 is read in on'yomi (Q718498) and the second in kun'yomi (Q1147749).

We could to something like:

日曜日/にちようび (L640276-F1) → sinogram reading pattern (P5244) → on'yomi (Q718498)
　applies to part (P518) → 日 (Q3594977)
　series ordinal (P1545) → 1

Shisma (talk) 08:13, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

Isn't this jūbako-yomi (Q1717979)? Deryck Chan (talk) 07:21, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

I think it is – Shisma (talk) 09:05, 14 August 2024 (UTC)