Wikidata:Property proposal/BG EGN

‎BG EGN edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

   Not done
DescriptionBulgarian government issued personal identifier
RepresentsRU Unique citizenship number (Q5453452)
Data typeExternal identifier
DomainBulgarian citizen and resident
Example 1Nikola Tulechki (Q121239734) --> 8404236483
Example 2MISSING
Example 3MISSING
Planned usePopulate this property with identifiers from official government sources for public office holders.
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Single-value constraintyes
Distinct-values constraintyes

Motivation edit

EGN is the primary unique identifier for Bulgarian citizens used by the administration.

Currently it is not disclosed due to outdated policies and fear among the population that it can be used for identity theft. It is not communicated even for public figures, such as candidates in elections and acting politicians. This creates difficulties in working with individual level public datasets.

Moreover following several massive data leaks, millions of EGN are already disclosed. This makes the "secret" status of the identifier even more problematic. For example it is still sometimes used a a means for 2FA or (without a seconady PIN) to access personal data.

As a first step, adding the property to Wikidata and then voluntarily disclosing its value by its respective holders, will be part of an advocacy campaign to ultimately change the government's policy towards disclosing it for public office holders and election candidates as well as finally implementing the necessary measures to ensure that it ca no longer be misused to access personal information.

Once the administration is convinced that the identifier should be shared, we will use it for integrating data about PEPs on Wikidata.

Tobias1984 (talk) 18:29, 20 September 2016 (UTC) Nk (talk) 08:44, 27 September 2016 (UTC) Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 14:11, 5 December 2017 (UTC) Datawiki30 (talk) 12:26, 10 November 2018 (UTC) StanProg (talk) 13:29, 22 November 2018 (UTC) Nikola Tulechki (talk) 13:09, 3 January 2023 (UTC) Rumyana.tsoneva (talk) 20:06, 5 March 2023 (UTC) Dimitar999 (talk) 15:50, 8 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Notified participants of WikiProject Bulgaria

See also: https://blog.bozho.net/blog/2778

--Nikola Tulechki (talk) 09:05, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion edit

  Support Boyan-bechev --Boyan-bechev (talk) 05:54, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Support Dbalinov (talk) 09:12, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Comment Hmm, I'm not sure using wikidata to try to force a policy change is a good approach. However, is this number valid for deceased persons? We have Social Security Death Index entry (P8002) that is the US SSN identifier but in principle in Wikidata it is only used for those who are deceased, in which case it's a very useful identifier for them. ArthurPSmith (talk) 17:08, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comment, @ArthurPSmith. Policy change is just the first step. Our goal is to be able to use the ID for data integration and matching individuals across data sources. It follows that it will be very usefull on wikidata.

For that to be possible, though we first need to dedramatize its usage in the eyes of the BG public and the fact that I can say "It's safe, mine is already on wikidata" is a very strong argument when the debate hits the media. To answer your question, yes the EGN is unique and not reused after a person's death and we hope that , amongst other things, this effort will ultimately result in a public endpoint, much like the one related to Social Security Death Index entry (P8002), listing whether a person with this ID exists and is alive. --Nikola Tulechki (talk) 10:21, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  With a point of view of another country in the EU, I think this is unacceptable private data to be keep in the public. Sorry. —Ismael Olea (talk) 16:45, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]