Wikidata:Property proposal/BrainInfo ID (hierarchical)

BrainInfo ID (hierarchical mode)

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Natural science

Done: BrainInfo ID (hierarchical) (P4395) (Talk and documentation)

Description	numeric identifier of a brain structure in the BrainInfo (NeuroNames) database in hierarchical mode
Data type	External identifier
Template parameter	BrainInfo ID in w:en:Template:Infobox brain
Domain	brain structures
Allowed values	0-99999
Example	283 in the thalamus (Q184215) --> 283
Source	http://braininfo.rprc.washington.edu/SearchByName.aspx
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	adding this ID to the Wikidata items of brain structures
Formatter URL	http://braininfo.rprc.washington.edu/Scripts/hiercentraldirectory.aspx?ID=$1
See also	Interlex ID (P696), UBERON ID (P1554). Those databases frequently store and cite BrainInfo IDs altogether Wikidata:Property proposal/BrainInfo ID

Motivation

Need to centralize using BrainInfo IDs in article infoboxes about brain structures in ru-wiki and en-wiki. Often there are bugs and inconsistencies between wiki. This is not seen with already centralized IDs, like TA98 code or Terminologia Embryologica code, or the aforementioned NeuroLex ID. Роман Беккер (talk) 22:06, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Discussion

I'm certain that creating an ID with the ID that's publically shown on the website makes sense. I'm less certain whether we should store data about this "hierarchical mode" ID. If you think we should also store the "hierarchical mode", can you make a case about why you think storing both is valuable? ChristianKl (talk) 23:34, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That's because:

The "hierarchical mode" IDs can be easily found and copied from the NeuroLex wiki entity of the corresponding brain structure, and/or from English Wikipedia Infobox brain parameter BrainInfo ID where there is BrainInfoMode=hier;
As far as I can see, the current version of Wikipedia Infobox brain does not accept "normal" BrainInfo IDs and does not form the right URLs with them. They work only with "hier" or "ancil". At least, I couldn't make them work with the parameter BrainInfoMode left blank, or containing something like "plain", "normal" etc. And also the template is very poorly documented. Maybe because this is a new BrainInfo ID system and the template in en-wiki was not updated yet. And I'm being not an admin can't fix a protected template in the first place. And in the second place, I'm not so great in template language to do that myself and to not broke the template :-) So, at least temporarily, if we want to centralize the currently used BrainInfo parameters, we should be able to store "hierarchical" and/or "ancillary" IDs. And then I'd ask someone in Enwiki to update the template to form correct URLs with "normal" BrainInfo IDs too. Роман Беккер (talk) 00:07, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2 (talk) 07:33, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Although I don't understand the structure of the site, the example URL link (http://braininfo.rprc.washington.edu/hiercentraldirectory.aspx?ID=283) does not work in my browser (redirected to top page). Is there any URL which could use this ID effectively? --Was a bee (talk) 17:25, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed the bug, there was need to add /Scripts/ in the middle, as in en-wiki template - I just didn't remember the correct URL format at the time of formulating the proposal. Роман Беккер (talk) 08:49, 16 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Роман Беккер, ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Was a bee: Done Created as BrainInfo ID (hierarchical) (P4395). ChristianKl (talk) 20:49, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]