Wikidata:Property proposal/Featured Biographies ID

Featured Biographies senator ID edit

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Person

Not done

Description	identifier for an American senator in the Featured Biographies database
Represents	United States Senate Featured Biographies (Q55869099)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	human (Q5)
Allowed values	String
Example 1	Blanche Bruce (Q881412) → Bruce
Example 2	Nancy Kassebaum (Q458281) → Kassebaum
Example 3	Uriah Tracy (Q650446) → Tracy
Source	https://www.senate.gov/history/featured_biographies.htm
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	Template:Public life links (Q55718146)
Number of IDs in source	138
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URL	https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/generic/Featured_Bio_$1.htm
Country	United States of America (Q30)
See also	US Congress Bio ID (P1157)

Motivation edit

This new Wikidata property related to politics (Q22984475) would improve our coverage of the United States Senate (Q66096). Thierry Caro (talk) 16:55, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion edit

Notified participants of WikiProject United States. Thierry Caro (talk) 16:55, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject every politician has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead.. Thierry Caro (talk) 13:11, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support David (talk) 09:14, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose 138 is too few to justify a property. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:41, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- @Pigsonthewing: are there guidelines somewhere on what a reasonable number would be to deserve a property? I had a brief look but couldn't find anything relevant (I don't have a particularly good internet connection atm, though, so could easily be missing something.) It seems like it would be useful to connect these up in some way: would you be recommending described at URL (P973) instead, or is there something else more suitable? --Oravrattas (talk) 19:33, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - Nothing written down; but from past precedent the bar seems to be set at a few hundred for external iDs. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:47, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral really low usage possibility, but why not to have it if it is used Masti (talk) 13:21, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- @Masti: It would definitely be used since Template:Public life links (Q55718146) is well deployed (2,500+ articles right now) on the French Wikipedia. Eventually, all the people covered here would be covered there. Thierry Caro (talk) 13:34, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support In the absence of a minimum requirement for number of IDs in the source, this seems useful to me. --Oravrattas (talk) 11:40, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I'd like to see some evidence there's going to be some longevity or comprehensiveness to this project. 138 is a low number for both a property and as a percentage of people who have been a US Senator. Gamaliel (talk) 01:42, 1 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support It seems to be a decent, high quality database, although low in numbers. --Kristbaum (talk) 15:23, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Pigsonthewing. And for guidelines: Rule of thumb is 1000+. In this case I would just use described at URL (P973) Multichill (talk) 15:33, 21 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]